As I got a ‘totally legit’ serial code in my box of cereal.
After the install I thought it’d be fun to install the Linux Subsystem.
While following the powershell instructions here, I thought the list of quick links of distros to download was interesting:
- Ubuntu 20.04
- Ubuntu 20.04 ARM
- Ubuntu 18.04
- Ubuntu 18.04 ARM
- Ubuntu 16.04
- Debian GNU/Linux
- Kali Linux
That’s right ARM Linux userland! I still have high hopes for Windows on ARM (I have 2 Windows RT devices now!!) although I’m not holding my breath.
Maybe there will be some ARM boards that are suitable for the desktop that aren’t over 1k USD.. That’d be nice.
Interesting trivia is that the Linux Subsystem started it’s life on ARM as a way to run Android binaries on Windows Phone. And true to everything Microsoft does, it got to the point where it could start to run things (albeit poorly) and was summarily killed. Although it’s found life despite the original false start as a general ‘text mode’ subsystem for Windows.
However running Linux binaries on Windows currently just shows that NTOS isn’t as efficient as the Linux kernel when it comes to emulating the Linux ABI. Although this was the original ‘dream’ of the microkernel, and a POSIX subsystem for NT was always part of the original design, although it really was more of a checkbox for GSA contracts, and outside of being able to use pax & vi it really was handicapped by not having BSD extensions, and especially by not having any access to the TCP/IP stack.
I should add these notes from the future past for the future me, when messing around with Windows Server 2019 build 1809 when they finally brought the Linux Subsystem into the fold. Unpacking the distribution and running the ‘setup’ sets it up DIRECTLY into that directory. So put it where you want it.
When you mess that up, you have to use the wslconfig program!
Of note is:
wslconfig /list /all
Lists all distributions, including ones that aren’t currently usable. They may be in the process of installing, uninstalling, or are in a broken state.
wslconfig /unregister <DistributionName>
Unregisters the distribution from WSL so it can be reinstalled or cleaned up.
This way you can now clean up your mess, and get Linux installed right.
You can run ARM Windows on RaspberryPi 3B and 3B+, although not all devices are supported yet.
They just don’t have enough ram for a viable desktop
Yeah. It’s just enough to test if your program runs on ARM64. I’ve been looking around for any cheap ARM64 SBC that can run KVM and has a bit more memory available, but it looks like 3GB is the most you can get, which is still a bit low.
I’d want at least 16GB, or heck DDR3/4 sockets! PCIE slots as well!
I know everyone wants ARM to be ulta low end, but I’m looking for something worthy of running as a desktop and/or server. I’ve seen one board but it was over $1k USD which is insane.
kind of OT, but: What do you think about the Talos POWER9 systems, especially the upcoming Blackbird platform?
PowerPC always underperformed VS my expectations. Not sure if it’s GCC or what, AIX always felt faster.
I know that power9 is basically the only viable ‘non x86’ platform left.
And how long will IBM realistically hold out?
> PowerPC always underperformed VS my expectations. Not sure if it’s GCC or what, AIX always felt faster.
may because of VisualAge C++ compiler?
> And how long will IBM realistically hold out?
as long as government keep using it?
“And how long will IBM realistically hold out?”
That for sure is the main question. But I think it looks good for now (Power10 seems to be on its way)
I just really hope for a small comeback of powerful non-x86 workstations.