Since I had written about it the last time, quite a bit of the emulation on Qemu has improved significantly since then. As always you’ll need to create and prepare a disk image, and I’m using an old SUN Station 5 PROM.
qemu-system-sparc -L . -m 64 -M SS-5 -bios ss5.bin -drive file=36G.disk,bus=0,unit=0,media=disk -drive file=solaris_2.6_598_sparc.iso,bus=0,unit=6,media=cdrom -startdate “1999-04-19”
One nice thing is that now you can boot off the CD-ROM. And you can boot Solaris 2.6 directly into single user mode to format and label the disk. It’s very convenient. All you need here is
And from there you can either kick off the disk partitioning, or the installer will boot up.
And now to the graphical welcome screen!
And then off to the ‘graphical’ installer. Yes, it’s not that graphical at all. Like before, it’s important that you don’t let it reboot on completion, you have to make changes to the system so it’ll boot up correctly, and make changes to the network config. At least in graphical mode vi works.
It is absolutely critical that you make this change or the disk will not boot at all.
# cat >> system
And you will want a default route…
# cat > defaultrouter
Then in the file /etc/nsswitch.conf change the following:
hosts: files dns
Then to ‘fix’ up your /etc/resolv.conf
# cat > resolv.conf
And then I like to add the following hosts to speed up telnet…
# cat >> hosts
And then hit Control+D and it’ll reboot back to the PROM. Now all you have to type in the PROM monitor is:
And in a minute you’ll be at the login screen.
I went ahead with CDE, and over on archive.org the old SimCity for UNIX versions are over there. One nice thing about being able to use CD-ROM’s is that Qemu can finally auto-mount the disk images. It’s great.
There is no license for SimCity, and after 5 minutes the city goes into a ‘meltdown’ mode. It’s a shame that back in the day the upstart x86 Linux was largely ignored by the UNIX market. But Qemu has come quite a bit where you can run some of this proprietary VAR software.
X11 is Fake NeWS! Crooked CDE putting down the good PostScript man, I tell you.
Wasn’t there one version of SunOS with NeWS? I’ve never used it though.
I remember the Sparcstations at University had it (along with X11 and SunTools). I think they ran SunOS 4.1.1.
Yes, I can confirm there’s still plenty of QEMU SPARC development going on 😉
You should find with the latest QEMU release (2.10) that the -startdate parameter is no longer required, and also that the included OpenBIOS PROM can now boot Solaris fine on the QEMU SS-5 machine if you don’t want to have to manually type the boot command each time.
Also I’ve rewritten the sun4m IOMMU/DMA code for the upcoming 2.11 release to use the proper QEMU APIs (instead of the legacy “manual” implementations) and I’ve had reports that this improves disk performance by ~20%.
Thank you for your work on the DMA code! Any chance you or anyone else will be finishing up sun4u so it can boot 64-bit Solaris versions? Or another alternative: adding QEMU PCI support to the niagara architecture so it can emulate a network card?
The main outstanding issue for sun4u preventing Solaris from running is to implement the sun4u MMU IE (invert endian) bit which is used to configure PCI MMIO devices (it’s also used in OpenBSD which is much easier to test with).
I had an outline from one of the TCG developers as to how to make this work, however I ran into issues with recursive calls into the memory API causing the byte-swaps to be incorrect, so it will need some more thought.
On the plus side you should find with a recent QEMU that all of NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD and Linux will boot fine in -nographic mode so I feel that 64-bit Solaris is getting closer…
Do you have some kind of status blog or something to point to for exciting updates like this? the Qemu master site has always been… lacking in the behind the scenes ongoings and the day to day mailing list is…well drinking from a firehose.
I do try and keep the official wiki page up to date at https://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Platforms/SPARC if that helps?
That also generally filters down to the release changelog at e.g. https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/2.11#SPARC for the upcoming 2.11 release.
Other than that, most other WIP stuff is still discussed on the mailing lists.
I guess I hadn’t checked it often enough, I just remember it being more sparse. My mistake!
Thanks for all your hard work!
awesome to hear! I’ve always loved the SPARC more in emulation than in real life for some reason… I was using the SUN Prom as I wanted that look & feel of the old machine, no real reason beyond that, you are right, as I know there was so much work in OpenBIOS to get it to the point where it too can load Solaris.
Faster disk is always a good thing… especially in emulation.
Have you tried to install NeXTSTEP?
Yes I did, which was the reason I reworked the sun4m IOMMU/DMA code as I thought it might be a DMA coherency issue, but I’m fairly sure it’s not now.
FWIW you can boot/install NeXTSTEP on Linux if you run QEMU like: taskset –cpu-list=1 qemu-system-sparc …. which restricts QEMU only to use a single CPU – not sure if there’s an equivalent utility for Windows?
The only remaining differences I can see between the normal/CPU restricted modes are differences in the async ESP IO requests and timers, so still some more digging to do I’m afraid!
I pulled down the latest qemu today and on a whim decided to try installing Nextstep 3.3 on an emulated Sparcstation 5 with 256 mb of ram and a tcx framebuffer. I was able to complete the initial install multiple items, which was really neat to see. However, the installer locked upon when extracting additional packages (languages and add-ons) after rebooting. Using openfirmware and the Sun bios both produced the same results. I manually set the cd to unit 6 just in case the different qemu default was a factor, but still the problem persisted. Great to see the progress though!
Sorry for the additional post: I found that de-selecting all the add-ons let the installer finish. The disk access on the harddrive seems okay and you can manually install the add-ons from the cd. Openstep works too.
I just found a 5.25 set of PC-NFS 3.0 disks and spent most of this evening archiving them. Maybe I can set up a virtual NFS client if I can figure out if there are any supported NICs in there.
I’ve only used the ‘ftp software’ client back in the day, and after that, the WATTCP package which was the basis for getting Quake/QuakeWorld/QuakeII on MS-DOS.
IS there a SDK in there?
It’s got some source for the server side for a pcnfsd and a slipd on there.
that could be useful… maybe to interface to packet drivers.
This document is so great.
I got Solaris 5.6 installed on Qemu 3.1 with -M SS-5.
But I can’t install Solaris with -M SS-10 and other machine type.
Do you have any suggestion about this problem?
I think you have to force a different CPU type for the SS-10/20’s. There are so many to try that you may have to try each one to see which one works (if it even does).
I picked the SS-5 as it worked out of the box without so much messing around, and I didn’t see any real objective difference, as I wanted it to ‘just run’.
Great that you got it booting up though!
Thanks for your suggestion. I found this web page and installed with -M SS-20.
Another question is it always boots to OK mode.
I try to boot without -bios ss20_v2.25_rom and fail.
Does it possible to boot into multi-user mode directly?
Well you will need to tell the SS-20 to use a SS-20 ROM so that makes perfect sense.
The generic ‘OpenBIOS’ ROM ought to be able to boot& install Solaris by now. It was a year+ ago, so you could try that if you Qemu is new enough.
I didn’t think of the 256MB RAM limit of the SS-5 being a thing, but yes, if you are going to try to run Solaris Cisco IOU stuff you will need plenty of RAM.
As a side note, unless you are into historical Cisco IOU, getting VIRL will get you ‘modern’ ish IOU IOS for x86 so you can run them on KVM/VMware if you want to… It’ll be a heck of a lot faster, that is for sure!
And of course there is dynamips!
OpenBios in the current version of Qemu (3.1.0) is still not able to boot Solaris. But thanx to Mark Cave-Ayland, in the meantime there is a fix available (https://www.ilande.co.uk/tmp/qemu/openbios-sparc32-ss1020fix). I gues it will be part of the next Qemu release.
I was able to directly boot Solaris (2.6 and 8) on an SS-20 using the fixed version of OpenBios instead of the original version.
I was just wondering if you were ever planning on doing a follow up to the Solaris QEMU stuff now that sun4u is supported (albeit still in beta)? I’d love to see a post on that sometime. I’ve not been able to find anyone else doing that online so far. Not with Solaris at least anyway.
tyom updated his blog after a while:
fug. mai ibm ppc powerseries 850 will be worthless.
Yep, I have 4.3.3 running on my 2006 Mac Pro! 16 minutes to install the BOS!
any chance we can get a tutorial on how to setup a working network on solaris using Qemu?
For Qemu Default Networking, the Addresses are hard-coded:
255.255.255.0 subnet / netmasks