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		<title>Otya128&#8217;s WineVDM (Win16 on Win64)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 05:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So yeah its a new binary release version 0.8.1. Download the zip here: otvdm-v0.8.1.zip So far things seem good, the torture test is usually compiling with QuickC for Windows, and SimCity for Windows 1.0. Excel &#38; Word are as always &#8230; <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2021/11/17/otya128s-winevdm-win16-on-win64/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/win16orama.png"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" width="1024" height="732" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/win16orama-1024x732.png" alt="" class="wp-image-11618" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/win16orama-1024x732.png 1024w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/win16orama-300x214.png 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/win16orama-768x549.png 768w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/win16orama-420x300.png 420w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/win16orama.png 1310w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a><figcaption>Running all the apps!</figcaption></figure></div>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So yeah its a new <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://github.com/otya128/winevdm/releases/download/v0.8.0/otvdm-v0.8.1.zip" target="_blank">binary release version 0.8.1.  Download the zip here: otvdm-v0.8.1.zip</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So far things seem good, the torture test is usually compiling with QuickC for Windows, and SimCity for Windows 1.0.  Excel &amp; Word are as always bonus material.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Follow the project over on <a href="https://github.com/otya128/winevdm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">github here: winevdm</a></p>
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		<title>WineVDM 0.5.0 released!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2018 07:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This version has MANY issues fixed, and is capable of running more and more Win16 software on Win64 based OS&#8217;s. One of the more exciting things is that as long as I do a print setup first, I can actually &#8230; <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/22/winevdm-0-5-0-released/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This version has MANY issues fixed, and is capable of running more and more Win16 software on Win64 based OS&#8217;s.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image"><img decoding="async" width="1767" height="1731" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Printing-from-Word-2.0c-onto-Brother-Laser-Printer.jpg" alt="" class="wp-image-8760" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Printing-from-Word-2.0c-onto-Brother-Laser-Printer.jpg 1767w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Printing-from-Word-2.0c-onto-Brother-Laser-Printer-300x294.jpg 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Printing-from-Word-2.0c-onto-Brother-Laser-Printer-768x752.jpg 768w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Printing-from-Word-2.0c-onto-Brother-Laser-Printer-1024x1003.jpg 1024w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Printing-from-Word-2.0c-onto-Brother-Laser-Printer-1200x1176.jpg 1200w" sizes="(max-width: 1767px) 100vw, 1767px" /><figcaption>Printing on paper!</figcaption></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">One of the more exciting things is that as long as I do a print setup first, I can actually print on a new printer from MS Word 2.0c!</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You can download it from the releases <a href="https://github.com/otya128/winevdm/releases/tag/v0.5.0">page here</a>:</p>



<a href="https://github.com/otya128/winevdm/releases/tag/v0.5.0">https://github.com/otya128/winevdm/releases/tag/v0.5.0</a>
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		<title>WineVDM is improving at a dramatic rate</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2018 06:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s incredible how much it&#8217;s improved since I last touched on WineVDM, the port of Wine to run on Windows using the MS-DOS Player (and Mame 80386 emulation) at it&#8217;s heart. The latest source build&#160;WineVDM_2018_07_30b.7z&#160;is now capable of loading and &#8230; <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/07/30/winevdm-is-improving-at-a-dramatic-rate/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SimCIty-for-Windows-1.0-in-WineVDM.png"><img decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-8632" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SimCIty-for-Windows-1.0-in-WineVDM.png" alt="" width="806" height="590" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SimCIty-for-Windows-1.0-in-WineVDM.png 806w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SimCIty-for-Windows-1.0-in-WineVDM-300x220.png 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SimCIty-for-Windows-1.0-in-WineVDM-768x562.png 768w" sizes="(max-width: 806px) 100vw, 806px" /></a>It&#8217;s incredible how much it&#8217;s improved since I last touched on <a href="https://github.com/otya128/winevdm">WineVDM</a>, the port of Wine to run on Windows using the MS-DOS Player (and Mame 80386 emulation) at it&#8217;s heart.</p>
<p>The latest source build&nbsp;<a href="https://vpsland.superglobalmegacorp.com/install/WineVDM/WineVDM_2018_07_30b.7z">WineVDM_2018_07_30b.7z</a>&nbsp;is now capable of loading and running Sim City for Windows 1.0.</p>
<p>I found it best to install Windows 3.0 into DOSBox, and then your application.&nbsp; After the install I copy the application so the physical drive of the hosts matches where it was installed, and then unpack the 7z build archive into that directory.&nbsp; There is a &#8216;WINDOWS&#8217; directory and I xcopy the installed Windows directory into there so it has all the INI files, fonts and all that jazz.&nbsp; To make sure it doesn&#8217;t conflict I delete the following from Windows 3.0:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">del windows\system\*.drv<br />
del windows\system\*.exe<br />
del windows\system\*.mod<br />
del windows\system\WIN87EM.DLL</p>
<p>Since these files are most certainly going to be emulated by WineVDM.&nbsp; After that it&#8217;s time to run stuff!</p>
<p><div id="attachment_8633" style="width: 650px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/compiling-130405-lines-of-code-on-QuickC-for-Windows.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8633" class="size-full wp-image-8633" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/compiling-130405-lines-of-code-on-QuickC-for-Windows.png" alt="" width="640" height="388" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/compiling-130405-lines-of-code-on-QuickC-for-Windows.png 640w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/compiling-130405-lines-of-code-on-QuickC-for-Windows-300x182.png 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a><p id="caption-attachment-8633" class="wp-caption-text">130 KLOC!</p></div></p>
<p>I should also add that I&#8217;ve been able to use QuickC for Windows, and build a &#8216;non trivial&#8217; program, the Fortran f2c compiler weighing in at 104,245 lines , and use that to compile 16,182 lines of Fortran 77 into C, and then compile the resulting C + the Fortran runtime library a staggering 130,405 lines of code, and the resulting binary works, just like it did on Windows 3.0!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been able to print a text file using Microsoft Word 2.0 much to my amazement, although anything involving fonts just locks or crashes.&nbsp; I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m all that surprised.</p>
<p>And yes, it does in fact run <a href="https://ski.ihoc.net/">SkiFree 1.0</a></p>
<p><div id="attachment_8634" style="width: 330px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SkiFree-1.00.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8634" class="size-full wp-image-8634" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SkiFree-1.00.png" alt="" width="320" height="300" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SkiFree-1.00.png 320w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SkiFree-1.00-300x281.png 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px" /></a><p id="caption-attachment-8634" class="wp-caption-text">SkiFree on WineVDM</p></div></p>
<p>So no need to wait for&nbsp;Win3mu, there is WineVDM which is being developed RIGHT NOW, and the source is already available.&nbsp; You can see my notes on <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2018/07/15/winevdm/">building it here</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2018 07:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is super cool, building on Takeda Toshiya&#8217;s excellent MS-DOS Player, is a fusion of the MS-DOS emulation with portions of Wine to run Win16 applications on Win32 capable OS&#8217;s. Yes, it really can run Excel 3.0a.&#160; I don&#8217;t know &#8230; <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/07/15/winevdm/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is super cool, building on Takeda Toshiya&#8217;s excellent <a href="http://takeda-toshiya.my.coocan.jp/msdos/index.html">MS-DOS Player</a>, is a fusion of the MS-DOS emulation with portions of Wine to run Win16 applications on Win32 capable OS&#8217;s.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_8575" style="width: 850px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/WineVDM-and-Excel-3.0a.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8575" class="size-large wp-image-8575" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/WineVDM-and-Excel-3.0a-1024x554.jpg" alt="" width="840" height="454" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/WineVDM-and-Excel-3.0a-1024x554.jpg 1024w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/WineVDM-and-Excel-3.0a-300x162.jpg 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/WineVDM-and-Excel-3.0a-768x415.jpg 768w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/WineVDM-and-Excel-3.0a.jpg 1067w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px" /></a><p id="caption-attachment-8575" class="wp-caption-text">Excel 3.0a</p></div></p>
<p>Yes, it really can run Excel 3.0a.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t know how much people will want a 27 year old spreadsheet, but here we go!&nbsp; It&#8217;s incredibly buggy, and many Microsoft programs don&#8217;t like their accelerators, or menus, more things don&#8217;t run than do, but when they do it&#8217;s great.</p>
<p>The releases on <a href="https://github.com/otya128/winevdm">the github page</a> are quite old, and you&#8217;ll really want to bulid this from source.&nbsp; &nbsp; You will need Visual Studio 2017 to build this, and I used the <a href="https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/downloads/">Community Edition</a>.&nbsp; While trying to compiling I got this error:</p>
<p><div id="attachment_8577" style="width: 850px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Custom-build-tools-cant-find-path.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8577" class="size-large wp-image-8577" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Custom-build-tools-cant-find-path-1024x137.jpg" alt="" width="840" height="112" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Custom-build-tools-cant-find-path-1024x137.jpg 1024w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Custom-build-tools-cant-find-path-300x40.jpg 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Custom-build-tools-cant-find-path-768x103.jpg 768w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Custom-build-tools-cant-find-path-1200x160.jpg 1200w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Custom-build-tools-cant-find-path.jpg 1400w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px" /></a><p id="caption-attachment-8577" class="wp-caption-text">Really it&#8217;s no help at all</p></div></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Performing Custom Build Tools<br />
The system cannot find the path specified.</p>
<p>Well that doesn&#8217;t help us at all!</p>
<p><a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/set-build-mode-to-detailed.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-8578" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/set-build-mode-to-detailed.jpg" alt="" width="856" height="568" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/set-build-mode-to-detailed.jpg 856w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/set-build-mode-to-detailed-300x199.jpg 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/set-build-mode-to-detailed-768x510.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 856px) 100vw, 856px" /></a>Setting the Tools -&gt; Options -&gt; Build and Run, MSBuild sections to both detailed verbosity revealed:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;C:\Users\neozeed\source\repos\winevdm-master\Release\convspec&#8221; &#8220;krnl386.exe16.spec&#8221; KERNEL &gt; &#8220;krnl386.exe16.asm&#8221; &amp;&amp; &#8220;C:\msys32\mingw64\bin\as&#8221; &#8211;32 -o &#8220;krnl386.exe16.obj&#8221; &#8220;krnl386.exe16.asm&#8221;<br />
Performing Custom Build Tools<br />
The system cannot find the path specified.</p>
<p>So it turns out it is using GNU GAS to assemble itself.&nbsp; So I just copied in an &#8216;as.exe&#8217; from another MinGW install I have lying around.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">c:\msys32\mingw64\bin\as.exe &#8211;version<br />
GNU assembler 2.17.50 20060824</p>
<p>So it doesn&#8217;t even have to be a hyper modern version, as you can see with the &#8211;32 we are building 32bit based stuff anyways.</p>
<p>And with that all done we have a release build.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_8579" style="width: 883px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Fortran-Dungeon.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8579" class="size-full wp-image-8579" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Fortran-Dungeon.jpg" alt="" width="873" height="262" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Fortran-Dungeon.jpg 873w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Fortran-Dungeon-300x90.jpg 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Fortran-Dungeon-768x230.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 873px) 100vw, 873px" /></a><p id="caption-attachment-8579" class="wp-caption-text">F2c Dungeon</p></div></p>
<p>I had no luck with Sim City, but Sim Life &amp; Sim Earth load at least, but not being able to use the menus means you can&#8217;t really use them.&nbsp; Microsoft Word 1.1 won&#8217;t load at all, while Word 2.0 will load but again no menus, and it&#8217;s unable to register enough OLE to open documents so it&#8217;s not very useful again.&nbsp; Although my ancient <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2010/02/07/16bit-fortran/">QuickC for Windows F2c port of Dungeon</a>, works okay, although QuickC for Windows itself does not currently run.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_8580" style="width: 743px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/WinHelp-3.00.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8580" class="size-full wp-image-8580" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/WinHelp-3.00.jpg" alt="" width="733" height="483" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/WinHelp-3.00.jpg 733w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/WinHelp-3.00-300x198.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 733px) 100vw, 733px" /></a><p id="caption-attachment-8580" class="wp-caption-text">WinHelp 3.00</p></div></p>
<p>Another great thing is that you can run WinHelp for all your ancient documenation fixes!&nbsp; Also MS Write from the ancient days of Windows 3.0/3.1 works as well</p>
<p><div id="attachment_8584" style="width: 968px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Write-from-Windows-3.0.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-8584" class="size-full wp-image-8584" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Write-from-Windows-3.0.jpg" alt="" width="958" height="422" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Write-from-Windows-3.0.jpg 958w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Write-from-Windows-3.0-300x132.jpg 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Write-from-Windows-3.0-768x338.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 958px) 100vw, 958px" /></a><p id="caption-attachment-8584" class="wp-caption-text">Write</p></div></p>
<p>You can download my binary build here:&nbsp;<a href="https://vpsland.superglobalmegacorp.com/install/WineVDM/WineVDM_2018_07_30b.7z">WineVDM_2018_07_30.7z</a>.&nbsp; It&#8217;s almost a given that you will need the <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=746572">Visual C++ 2017 runtime</a>.</p>
<p>The latest version allows the menus to work properly so you can actually use Word for Windows 2.0 and SimEarth &amp; SimLife now!&nbsp; Further updates let you actually select and open files in Word for Windows 2.0!</p>
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