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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2024 20:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-380550&quot;&gt;Stephen Ferrell&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s from several years ago (4?).

Anyways what you want is this one:

https://github.com/neozeed/GW-BASIC-tkchia-devel

Which is updated to work]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-380550">Stephen Ferrell</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s from several years ago (4?).</p>
<p>Anyways what you want is this one:</p>
<p><a href="https://github.com/neozeed/GW-BASIC-tkchia-devel" rel="nofollow ugc">https://github.com/neozeed/GW-BASIC-tkchia-devel</a></p>
<p>Which is updated to work</p>
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		By: Stephen Ferrell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Ferrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2024 20:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Microsoft just dropped the sources for GW-BASIC at https://github.com/microsoft/GW-BASIC]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft just dropped the sources for GW-BASIC at <a href="https://github.com/microsoft/GW-BASIC" rel="nofollow ugc">https://github.com/microsoft/GW-BASIC</a></p>
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		By: Stephen Ferrell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Ferrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2024 20:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MS just dropped the sources for GW-BASIC at https://github.com/microsoft/GW-BASIC]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MS just dropped the sources for GW-BASIC at <a href="https://github.com/microsoft/GW-BASIC" rel="nofollow ugc">https://github.com/microsoft/GW-BASIC</a></p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2024 08:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374057&quot;&gt;Abrahan&lt;/a&gt;.

I thought it was well known, but I&#039;d added it to github a while back

https://github.com/neozeed/himem.sys-2.06]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374057">Abrahan</a>.</p>
<p>I thought it was well known, but I&#8217;d added it to github a while back</p>
<p><a href="https://github.com/neozeed/himem.sys-2.06" rel="nofollow ugc">https://github.com/neozeed/himem.sys-2.06</a></p>
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		By: usotsuki		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[usotsuki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2024 22:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374057&quot;&gt;Abrahan&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s _out_ there as part of the specification disk, but hasn&#039;t been relicensed.

DOSSHELL is also missing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374057">Abrahan</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s _out_ there as part of the specification disk, but hasn&#8217;t been relicensed.</p>
<p>DOSSHELL is also missing.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2024 06:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374902&quot;&gt;Khim&lt;/a&gt;.

I can&#039;t imagine a scenario where vmware/hyper-v/kvm wouldn&#039;t suffice.  Even when it was &#039;current&#039; NT 4 terminal server is how I delt with needing to run Win16 stuff, as you could detach it and let it run in the background.

They are going to drop real/286/v86 modes soon enough anyways, so it&#039;ll all be moot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374902">Khim</a>.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine a scenario where vmware/hyper-v/kvm wouldn&#8217;t suffice.  Even when it was &#8216;current&#8217; NT 4 terminal server is how I delt with needing to run Win16 stuff, as you could detach it and let it run in the background.</p>
<p>They are going to drop real/286/v86 modes soon enough anyways, so it&#8217;ll all be moot.</p>
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		By: Khim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Khim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2024 22:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374888&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

An upgrade path for the Deutschebahn?

https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1aeq7mo/msdos_and_windows_311_still_run_train_dashboards/

Jokes aside the main advantage of Arcanoae is probably the ability to run these old Windows 3.x and OS/2 apps on UEFI-only hardware without CSM module.

I wonder if FreeDOS supports that and how complicated would it be to make Windows 3.11 apps to run on these without Arcanoae.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374888">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>An upgrade path for the Deutschebahn?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1aeq7mo/msdos_and_windows_311_still_run_train_dashboards/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1aeq7mo/msdos_and_windows_311_still_run_train_dashboards/</a></p>
<p>Jokes aside the main advantage of Arcanoae is probably the ability to run these old Windows 3.x and OS/2 apps on UEFI-only hardware without CSM module.</p>
<p>I wonder if FreeDOS supports that and how complicated would it be to make Windows 3.11 apps to run on these without Arcanoae.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2024 21:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374841&quot;&gt;Khim&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not forgetting I just don&#039;t have anything for OS/2 that 2.0 can&#039;t run.  The one time I watched someone go on about arcanoae they were still using Windows 3.1 stuff on bare metal which kind of loses the plot for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374841">Khim</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not forgetting I just don&#8217;t have anything for OS/2 that 2.0 can&#8217;t run.  The one time I watched someone go on about arcanoae they were still using Windows 3.1 stuff on bare metal which kind of loses the plot for me.</p>
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		By: Khim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Khim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2024 17:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374406&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

You are forgetting that OS/2 is still a commercial product and people pay good money for: https://www.arcanoae.com/product-category/an-products/

MS DOS was abandoned for almost two decades before they released some early sources.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374406">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>You are forgetting that OS/2 is still a commercial product and people pay good money for: <a href="https://www.arcanoae.com/product-category/an-products/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.arcanoae.com/product-category/an-products/</a></p>
<p>MS DOS was abandoned for almost two decades before they released some early sources.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2024 16:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374333&quot;&gt;Abrahan Sanjuas Fontan&lt;/a&gt;.

I think there may be hope now, as DOS 4 did require IBM signoff, and Microsoft got it.  I don&#039;t think anyone who had so much animosity about OS/2 is still alive or anywhere near IBM these days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/04/28/compiling-ms-dos-4-0-from-dos-4-0-on-a-ps-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374333">Abrahan Sanjuas Fontan</a>.</p>
<p>I think there may be hope now, as DOS 4 did require IBM signoff, and Microsoft got it.  I don&#8217;t think anyone who had so much animosity about OS/2 is still alive or anywhere near IBM these days.</p>
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