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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/02/23/porting-sarien-to-os-2-presentation-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-359753&quot;&gt;Joshua Rodd&lt;/a&gt;.

I didn&#039;t want to make OS/2 *think* more than it had to, and I had thought the CGA on EGA thing looked &#039;cute&#039;.

My main goal was to get something running on the oldest version of OS/2 which at the time was 6.123, however with the recent unearthing of 6.78 I was happy to see it running there!

I would imagine it&#039;d be a trivial change, the &lt;a href=&quot;https://github.com/neozeed/sarienPM/blob/main/nullvid.c#L441&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;lines are here&lt;/a&gt;.  Although I don&#039;t think much of anyone would be all that interested..

It is complete enough I could play Space Quest II all the way through although I would realistically enable a queue for keyboard input, maybe going as far as a matrix for multiple keypresses, as it just flags individual keys, so if you type fast, it&#039;ll lose the input.  It did make playing kind of hard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/02/23/porting-sarien-to-os-2-presentation-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-359753">Joshua Rodd</a>.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t want to make OS/2 *think* more than it had to, and I had thought the CGA on EGA thing looked &#8216;cute&#8217;.</p>
<p>My main goal was to get something running on the oldest version of OS/2 which at the time was 6.123, however with the recent unearthing of 6.78 I was happy to see it running there!</p>
<p>I would imagine it&#8217;d be a trivial change, the <a href="https://github.com/neozeed/sarienPM/blob/main/nullvid.c#L441" rel="nofollow ugc">lines are here</a>.  Although I don&#8217;t think much of anyone would be all that interested..</p>
<p>It is complete enough I could play Space Quest II all the way through although I would realistically enable a queue for keyboard input, maybe going as far as a matrix for multiple keypresses, as it just flags individual keys, so if you type fast, it&#8217;ll lose the input.  It did make playing kind of hard.</p>
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		By: Joshua Rodd		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Rodd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2024 23:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dumb question... why not just map all 16 EGA colours? They&#039;ll be close enough.

OS/2 2.0 GA on a VGA had an odd colour palette with #00/#7F/#FF intensities, whereas an actual CGA or EGA would be #00/#B9/#FF. OS/2 2.0 GA also set colour #7 to #CCCCCC. I have no idea why they did this.

But it&#039;s close enough for a typical 16 colour game, and if you tried to run a CGA or EGA DOS game in a window, it would just map the colours directly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumb question&#8230; why not just map all 16 EGA colours? They&#8217;ll be close enough.</p>
<p>OS/2 2.0 GA on a VGA had an odd colour palette with #00/#7F/#FF intensities, whereas an actual CGA or EGA would be #00/#B9/#FF. OS/2 2.0 GA also set colour #7 to #CCCCCC. I have no idea why they did this.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s close enough for a typical 16 colour game, and if you tried to run a CGA or EGA DOS game in a window, it would just map the colours directly.</p>
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		By: newt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[newt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2024 18:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/02/23/porting-sarien-to-os-2-presentation-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-358647&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Sure crypto can be just removed for a start.
Having just a good plain and simple VIO client is already a very good start. OS/2 is absolutely orphan here. Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/02/23/porting-sarien-to-os-2-presentation-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-358647">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>Sure crypto can be just removed for a start.<br />
Having just a good plain and simple VIO client is already a very good start. OS/2 is absolutely orphan here. Thanks!</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2024 15:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/02/23/porting-sarien-to-os-2-presentation-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-358635&quot;&gt;Stefan Ring&lt;/a&gt;.

I wonder about using stuff like this:
https://github.com/classilla/cryanc

or this:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1987239.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/02/23/porting-sarien-to-os-2-presentation-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-358635">Stefan Ring</a>.</p>
<p>I wonder about using stuff like this:<br />
<a href="https://github.com/classilla/cryanc" rel="nofollow ugc">https://github.com/classilla/cryanc</a></p>
<p>or this:<br />
<a href="http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1987239.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1987239.html</a></p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2024 15:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/02/23/porting-sarien-to-os-2-presentation-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-358129&quot;&gt;newt&lt;/a&gt;.

it looks like something emx could build?

Probably need to change the tcpip strategy and remove crypto I guess?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/02/23/porting-sarien-to-os-2-presentation-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-358129">newt</a>.</p>
<p>it looks like something emx could build?</p>
<p>Probably need to change the tcpip strategy and remove crypto I guess?</p>
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		By: Stefan Ring		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stefan Ring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2024 13:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/02/23/porting-sarien-to-os-2-presentation-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-358129&quot;&gt;newt&lt;/a&gt;.

But it would first require OpenSSL to be useful, and this is going to be a major PITA!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/02/23/porting-sarien-to-os-2-presentation-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-358129">newt</a>.</p>
<p>But it would first require OpenSSL to be useful, and this is going to be a major PITA!</p>
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		By: newt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[newt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2024 16:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Talented coder as you are - can you port this to OS/2?

https://c9x.me/irc/https://c9x.me/irc/

OS/2 needs badly a good VIO IRC client, without any PM depency.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talented coder as you are &#8211; can you port this to OS/2?</p>
<p><a href="https://c9x.me/irc/https://c9x.me/irc/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://c9x.me/irc/https://c9x.me/irc/</a></p>
<p>OS/2 needs badly a good VIO IRC client, without any PM depency.</p>
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