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		By: neozeed		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2021/10/22/chasing-more-386-omf/comment-page-1/#comment-286242&quot;&gt;Luca&lt;/a&gt;.

Unauthorized Windows 95 by Andrew Schulman.

ISBN-10: 1568841698

Or you know, just install it.  Run plenty of MS/DOS programs all at once .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2021/10/22/chasing-more-386-omf/comment-page-1/#comment-286242">Luca</a>.</p>
<p>Unauthorized Windows 95 by Andrew Schulman.</p>
<p>ISBN-10: 1568841698</p>
<p>Or you know, just install it.  Run plenty of MS/DOS programs all at once .</p>
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		By: Luca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2021 17:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2021/10/22/chasing-more-386-omf/comment-page-1/#comment-286164&quot;&gt;Malcolm&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting. Where have you found these technical informations? I would like to read them, in-depth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2021/10/22/chasing-more-386-omf/comment-page-1/#comment-286164">Malcolm</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting. Where have you found these technical informations? I would like to read them, in-depth.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2021/10/22/chasing-more-386-omf/comment-page-1/#comment-286107&quot;&gt;Luca&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, the explanation on Gunkies was basically written by Neozeed:

http://gunkies.org/wiki/Windows_2.0#Windows.2F386

There&#039;s been a lot of conversation about this release by people who hang out here since it&#039;s such an oddball.  Is there anything specific you want to know about it?

What seemed most odd to me is that Windows/386 is basically a hypervisor underneath a regular Windows/286.  Win386.exe sets up EMS emulation and provides services for VM86 boxen, then launches Win86.com, a regular Windows.  So a copy of Windows/386 can be run in fully real mode by running Win86.com directly, or under its bundled hypervisor.  But what&#039;s even crazier is the hypervisor can be put under Windows/286, or even under command.com, to achieve EMM386-like behavior, before EMM386 existed.  I think doing this under Windows/286 won&#039;t support VM86 boxes, but it will use emulated EMS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2021/10/22/chasing-more-386-omf/comment-page-1/#comment-286107">Luca</a>.</p>
<p>Well, the explanation on Gunkies was basically written by Neozeed:</p>
<p><a href="http://gunkies.org/wiki/Windows_2.0#Windows.2F386" rel="nofollow ugc">http://gunkies.org/wiki/Windows_2.0#Windows.2F386</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of conversation about this release by people who hang out here since it&#8217;s such an oddball.  Is there anything specific you want to know about it?</p>
<p>What seemed most odd to me is that Windows/386 is basically a hypervisor underneath a regular Windows/286.  Win386.exe sets up EMS emulation and provides services for VM86 boxen, then launches Win86.com, a regular Windows.  So a copy of Windows/386 can be run in fully real mode by running Win86.com directly, or under its bundled hypervisor.  But what&#8217;s even crazier is the hypervisor can be put under Windows/286, or even under command.com, to achieve EMM386-like behavior, before EMM386 existed.  I think doing this under Windows/286 won&#8217;t support VM86 boxes, but it will use emulated EMS.</p>
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		By: Luca		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2021 19:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You said in the article: &quot;Windows/386 being a 386 VM86 multitasker&quot;.
But in the linked article, there&#039;s no evidence of &quot;386 VM86 multitasker&quot;. Can you explain more?
Thank you :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said in the article: &#8220;Windows/386 being a 386 VM86 multitasker&#8221;.<br />
But in the linked article, there&#8217;s no evidence of &#8220;386 VM86 multitasker&#8221;. Can you explain more?<br />
Thank you 🙂</p>
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		By: Fernando		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2021 15:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank You!, I will have a look at this at the near future.

&quot;The one thing I wonder about sometimes if there was some kind of secret Microsoft extended DOS/Windows that relied on OMF &#038; Link386&quot;
I seem to recall that when Cutler and his people started working in OS2/NT-Windows NT they compiled and run an emulator of an Intel i860 in some kind of OS/2, like taking the early OS/2 2.00 source code and compiling with their tools.
Microsoft still had access to OS/2 source code like IBM had access to Windows code.
You could see at &quot;OS/2 Museum&quot; that versions of OS/2 2.00 before release used another executable format.
I should look where I read this, but it&#039;s not easy to find.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You!, I will have a look at this at the near future.</p>
<p>&#8220;The one thing I wonder about sometimes if there was some kind of secret Microsoft extended DOS/Windows that relied on OMF &amp; Link386&#8221;<br />
I seem to recall that when Cutler and his people started working in OS2/NT-Windows NT they compiled and run an emulator of an Intel i860 in some kind of OS/2, like taking the early OS/2 2.00 source code and compiling with their tools.<br />
Microsoft still had access to OS/2 source code like IBM had access to Windows code.<br />
You could see at &#8220;OS/2 Museum&#8221; that versions of OS/2 2.00 before release used another executable format.<br />
I should look where I read this, but it&#8217;s not easy to find.</p>
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