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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 17:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-350077&quot;&gt;Lucas&lt;/a&gt;.

this is the weirdest ai spam engine thing ive ever seen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-350077">Lucas</a>.</p>
<p>this is the weirdest ai spam engine thing ive ever seen.</p>
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		By: Lucas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 12:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I came across this interesting exploration of running Windows 10 on the Raspberry Pi 4. The author highlights the affordability of Raspberry Pi computers, particularly the Pi 4, and shares a video tutorial from ETA Prime&#039;s channel on getting Windows 10 up and running efficiently.

The guide includes specific requirements, such as using a 256GB SD card, and emphasizes the need for additional peripherals like a USB Hub, USB Ethernet adapter, USB audio card, and mini HDMI to HDMI cables/adapters. The author shares their experience with the setup process, including addressing a DMA bug limiting memory usage to 3GB.

The Windows 10 on ARM setup is described as heavily customized, consuming about 1GB of RAM upon booting, leaving just under 2GB for user programs. The author mentions successful installations of programs like Microsoft Edge and MAME 0.36, along with an interesting note about running Win16 based programs through OTVDM.

The post concludes with a realistic perspective on the Raspberry Pi 4&#039;s performance, acknowledging its limitations compared to higher-end systems but highlighting its affordability as a gateway into non-x86 Windows exploration.

If you&#039;re curious about running Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi 4 or looking for a cost-effective entry point into non-x86 Windows, this guide provides valuable insights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this interesting exploration of running Windows 10 on the Raspberry Pi 4. The author highlights the affordability of Raspberry Pi computers, particularly the Pi 4, and shares a video tutorial from ETA Prime&#8217;s channel on getting Windows 10 up and running efficiently.</p>
<p>The guide includes specific requirements, such as using a 256GB SD card, and emphasizes the need for additional peripherals like a USB Hub, USB Ethernet adapter, USB audio card, and mini HDMI to HDMI cables/adapters. The author shares their experience with the setup process, including addressing a DMA bug limiting memory usage to 3GB.</p>
<p>The Windows 10 on ARM setup is described as heavily customized, consuming about 1GB of RAM upon booting, leaving just under 2GB for user programs. The author mentions successful installations of programs like Microsoft Edge and MAME 0.36, along with an interesting note about running Win16 based programs through OTVDM.</p>
<p>The post concludes with a realistic perspective on the Raspberry Pi 4&#8217;s performance, acknowledging its limitations compared to higher-end systems but highlighting its affordability as a gateway into non-x86 Windows exploration.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re curious about running Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi 4 or looking for a cost-effective entry point into non-x86 Windows, this guide provides valuable insights.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2020 18:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256790&quot;&gt;bhtooefr&lt;/a&gt;.

I owned several, they were a modern technical miracle of a sub $100 computer.  The later ones were really great, 64bit, quad core, 4GB of RAM.

The problem was always the same, as you mentioned the onboard storage just wasn&#039;t anywhere near enough.  And it&#039;s a shame I really liked the idea instead of Android cheap devices you could get a legit x86 machine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256790">bhtooefr</a>.</p>
<p>I owned several, they were a modern technical miracle of a sub $100 computer.  The later ones were really great, 64bit, quad core, 4GB of RAM.</p>
<p>The problem was always the same, as you mentioned the onboard storage just wasn&#8217;t anywhere near enough.  And it&#8217;s a shame I really liked the idea instead of Android cheap devices you could get a legit x86 machine.</p>
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		By: bhtooefr		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256790</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bhtooefr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2020 17:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256789&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

TBF, the Bing machines had all the same &quot;marketing yes&quot; defaults as a regular 8.1 machine.

AFAIK, the only real difference was that the vendor was forbidden from installing their own shovelware that changed the default search engine away from Bing. Not that a tablet with 16 GiB of eMMC had room for &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt;, not even the kinds of shovelware that changed the default search engine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256789">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>TBF, the Bing machines had all the same &#8220;marketing yes&#8221; defaults as a regular 8.1 machine.</p>
<p>AFAIK, the only real difference was that the vendor was forbidden from installing their own shovelware that changed the default search engine away from Bing. Not that a tablet with 16 GiB of eMMC had room for <i>anything</i>, not even the kinds of shovelware that changed the default search engine.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2020 11:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256772&quot;&gt;bhtooefr&lt;/a&gt;.

It makes far more sense then their current strategy of a few laptops.  I mean they couldn&#039;t have all slept through the Balmer years, he did have ONE super valid point, without a critical mass of developers the platform is dead.

On the one hand I&#039;d have imagined that MS would be happy for the existence of cheap hardware they didn&#039;t have to make, but could push a generation to use their tools and OS on, instead it&#039;s like they have learned nothing about the rise of Python and solutions like docker/openstack.

Granted Azure is capturing established products to their cloud but it&#039;s not doing anything for kids/hobbyists.

I should also add those $80 Windows 8 tablets were basically BING machines, you get cheap hardware running Windows into peoples hands with all the settings set to &quot;Marketing YES&quot;, and BING by default, and they generate revenue.  You&#039;d think they would want to continue that trend....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256772">bhtooefr</a>.</p>
<p>It makes far more sense then their current strategy of a few laptops.  I mean they couldn&#8217;t have all slept through the Balmer years, he did have ONE super valid point, without a critical mass of developers the platform is dead.</p>
<p>On the one hand I&#8217;d have imagined that MS would be happy for the existence of cheap hardware they didn&#8217;t have to make, but could push a generation to use their tools and OS on, instead it&#8217;s like they have learned nothing about the rise of Python and solutions like docker/openstack.</p>
<p>Granted Azure is capturing established products to their cloud but it&#8217;s not doing anything for kids/hobbyists.</p>
<p>I should also add those $80 Windows 8 tablets were basically BING machines, you get cheap hardware running Windows into peoples hands with all the settings set to &#8220;Marketing YES&#8221;, and BING by default, and they generate revenue.  You&#8217;d think they would want to continue that trend&#8230;.</p>
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		By: bhtooefr		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256772</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bhtooefr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256716&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

My favorite take on it is that Windows on ARM isn&#039;t a product, but rather a threat. That is, Microsoft doesn&#039;t want to actually move off of x86, they just want good mobile x86 hardware.

As I understand, Windows RT is basically why Intel started the whole contrarevenue (that is, selling Bay Trails at a loss by including support chips for free) thing that resulted in $60 Bay Trail Windows 8 tablets existing. RT couldn&#039;t run x86 software (and Microsoft didn&#039;t even allow development of native ARM Win32 software) or join domains, two of the biggest reasons why you&#039;d buy a Windows tablet over an iPad.

Of course, WoA had to follow through on that threat, hence it being real Windows editions and having x86 emulation... but then they&#039;re backed into a corner by Qualcomm dropping the ball, too. (Even then, the WoA threat seems to have been used as a negotiating tactic for the Surface Go&#039;s processor.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256716">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>My favorite take on it is that Windows on ARM isn&#8217;t a product, but rather a threat. That is, Microsoft doesn&#8217;t want to actually move off of x86, they just want good mobile x86 hardware.</p>
<p>As I understand, Windows RT is basically why Intel started the whole contrarevenue (that is, selling Bay Trails at a loss by including support chips for free) thing that resulted in $60 Bay Trail Windows 8 tablets existing. RT couldn&#8217;t run x86 software (and Microsoft didn&#8217;t even allow development of native ARM Win32 software) or join domains, two of the biggest reasons why you&#8217;d buy a Windows tablet over an iPad.</p>
<p>Of course, WoA had to follow through on that threat, hence it being real Windows editions and having x86 emulation&#8230; but then they&#8217;re backed into a corner by Qualcomm dropping the ball, too. (Even then, the WoA threat seems to have been used as a negotiating tactic for the Surface Go&#8217;s processor.)</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 07:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256734&quot;&gt;Firehawke&lt;/a&gt;.

Indeed hyper-v on arm is a thing , I just expected to either not install it if the CPU didn’t support it, or the module fail to load but windows boot up normally.

Instead it bricked.

Although I could take pictures of remaking the SD card.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256734">Firehawke</a>.</p>
<p>Indeed hyper-v on arm is a thing , I just expected to either not install it if the CPU didn’t support it, or the module fail to load but windows boot up normally.</p>
<p>Instead it bricked.</p>
<p>Although I could take pictures of remaking the SD card.</p>
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		By: Roy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 00:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256734&quot;&gt;Firehawke&lt;/a&gt;.

but Hyper-V on ARM64 is working.
https://www.thomasmaurer.ch/2020/06/run-hyper-v-on-windows-10-on-arm-and-the-surface-pro-x/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/07/24/windows-10-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/comment-page-1/#comment-256734">Firehawke</a>.</p>
<p>but Hyper-V on ARM64 is working.<br />
<a href="https://www.thomasmaurer.ch/2020/06/run-hyper-v-on-windows-10-on-arm-and-the-surface-pro-x/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thomasmaurer.ch/2020/06/run-hyper-v-on-windows-10-on-arm-and-the-surface-pro-x/</a></p>
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		By: Firehawke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Firehawke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 21:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WSL2 was never going to work because it needs Hyper-V and that&#039;s an entire can of worms on its own. Still, an interesting project and a viewport on what the delayed Windows 10X devices will be like (but hopefully those will be in better shape!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WSL2 was never going to work because it needs Hyper-V and that&#8217;s an entire can of worms on its own. Still, an interesting project and a viewport on what the delayed Windows 10X devices will be like (but hopefully those will be in better shape!)</p>
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		By: Nils		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nils]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 06:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Haha this reminds me of old linux day&#039;s. Where every nerd wanted to have linux, but most of his/her hardware wasn&#039;t yet supported.

I have ruined my Wacom&#039;s two hardware-buttons, because touch clicking was not supported and I just wanted to use linux. Graphics was stuck at 640x480 and sound had a click-noise every second.
So I used text console, hardware buttons and turned off sound.

Ha, but yeah, I am using Linux and I got a free compiler along.

Nils :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha this reminds me of old linux day&#8217;s. Where every nerd wanted to have linux, but most of his/her hardware wasn&#8217;t yet supported.</p>
<p>I have ruined my Wacom&#8217;s two hardware-buttons, because touch clicking was not supported and I just wanted to use linux. Graphics was stuck at 640&#215;480 and sound had a click-noise every second.<br />
So I used text console, hardware buttons and turned off sound.</p>
<p>Ha, but yeah, I am using Linux and I got a free compiler along.</p>
<p>Nils 🙂</p>
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