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		By: cs		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256563</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256554&quot;&gt;James Bryant&lt;/a&gt;.

I have a feeling it&#039;s only a matter of time before that happens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256554">James Bryant</a>.</p>
<p>I have a feeling it&#8217;s only a matter of time before that happens.</p>
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		By: James Bryant		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256554</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hopefully they won&#039;t lock the Mac Desktops/Laptops down like they do with iOS.  I started thinking about Boxedwine on Mac/ARM machines and would hate to spend any time on it if it won&#039;t be allowed.  Recently I have started putting together simple dynamic recompilers for ARMv7 and ARMv8.  I still have lots of work to do, but Boxedwine on a Raspberry Pi 4 can now run x86 games/apps like a 486 computer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully they won&#8217;t lock the Mac Desktops/Laptops down like they do with iOS.  I started thinking about Boxedwine on Mac/ARM machines and would hate to spend any time on it if it won&#8217;t be allowed.  Recently I have started putting together simple dynamic recompilers for ARMv7 and ARMv8.  I still have lots of work to do, but Boxedwine on a Raspberry Pi 4 can now run x86 games/apps like a 486 computer.</p>
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		By: MrArgent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrArgent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2020 16:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And to think the II was 6502 all the way!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to think the II was 6502 all the way!</p>
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		By: cs		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256464</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2020 16:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256427&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve had to lay my hands on a G5, but I&#039;d expect it to be nothing short of a screamer with Jag :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256427">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had to lay my hands on a G5, but I&#8217;d expect it to be nothing short of a screamer with Jag 🙂</p>
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		By: cs		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256463</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2020 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256459&quot;&gt;tenox&lt;/a&gt;.

Lumiatosh (950 anyone?)

Pinetosh

:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256459">tenox</a>.</p>
<p>Lumiatosh (950 anyone?)</p>
<p>Pinetosh</p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: tenox		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tenox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think instead of hackintosh there will be Raspitosh? Raspberryintosh? Or something like that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think instead of hackintosh there will be Raspitosh? Raspberryintosh? Or something like that.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256427</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2020 06:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256423&quot;&gt;cs&lt;/a&gt;.

No doubt about it, SL is one of the greats~!

I also love 10.2.7 for the G5, with a SSD.  It&#039;s wicked fast!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256423">cs</a>.</p>
<p>No doubt about it, SL is one of the greats~!</p>
<p>I also love 10.2.7 for the G5, with a SSD.  It&#8217;s wicked fast!</p>
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		By: cs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2020 15:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256413&quot;&gt;Chris M.&lt;/a&gt;.

I coaxed Snow Leopard onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Apart from the graphics being a bit funky after booting and waking from sleep (but eventually it sorts itself out), it works fine. Now that&#039;s a blast from the past, with Rosetta still there and no traces of iOSification whatsoever. And of course it flies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256413">Chris M.</a>.</p>
<p>I coaxed Snow Leopard onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Apart from the graphics being a bit funky after booting and waking from sleep (but eventually it sorts itself out), it works fine. Now that&#8217;s a blast from the past, with Rosetta still there and no traces of iOSification whatsoever. And of course it flies.</p>
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		By: Chris M.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2020 17:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256412&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Catalina is the last to support legacy kexts, but other than that its a clean break from anything &quot;legacy&quot; in OS X. The &quot;move&quot; to ARM won&#039;t be painful since they already trashed a decade of software a year ago.

I got a 2012 Macbook Air here triple booting Mojave, Catalina, and Windows 10 2004. The irony is this fully 64-bit UEFI machine can&#039;t even boot Windows 10 properly in UEFI mode (video breaks when a driver is installed).

Restoring this thing to factory was a retro flashback though, came with 10.8 Mountain Lion! Old enough to still have vestiges of PPC era OS X that I used so much back in the day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256412">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>Catalina is the last to support legacy kexts, but other than that its a clean break from anything &#8220;legacy&#8221; in OS X. The &#8220;move&#8221; to ARM won&#8217;t be painful since they already trashed a decade of software a year ago.</p>
<p>I got a 2012 Macbook Air here triple booting Mojave, Catalina, and Windows 10 2004. The irony is this fully 64-bit UEFI machine can&#8217;t even boot Windows 10 properly in UEFI mode (video breaks when a driver is installed).</p>
<p>Restoring this thing to factory was a retro flashback though, came with 10.8 Mountain Lion! Old enough to still have vestiges of PPC era OS X that I used so much back in the day.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2020 16:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256374&quot;&gt;cs&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t get how so many people are proclaiming the &#039;version 11&#039; being a clean break, when it&#039;s still more of the same.

Obviously it&#039;s still more Darwin, although now it&#039;s without 32bit, no Carbon, no OpenGL it just feels like an empty husk to me.

But I&#039;m sitting here on my trashcan/cylinder enjoying Mojave.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/06/23/so-apple-is-finally-moving-to-arm/comment-page-1/#comment-256374">cs</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get how so many people are proclaiming the &#8216;version 11&#8217; being a clean break, when it&#8217;s still more of the same.</p>
<p>Obviously it&#8217;s still more Darwin, although now it&#8217;s without 32bit, no Carbon, no OpenGL it just feels like an empty husk to me.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m sitting here on my trashcan/cylinder enjoying Mojave.</p>
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