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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2020 00:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255628&quot;&gt;Richard Birch&lt;/a&gt;.

At first things were &#039;fine&#039; on Catalina, but I&#039;m now getting these &quot;no successful checkins from com.apple.WindowServer&quot; all the time.  I thought it was GPU related as I was pushing it pretty hard, and when it crashed out, I opened it up and it was HOT.  So I had to download one of those fan utilities and push the thing to 100% which sure helped with the cooling but sadly not with the crashing.

This thing will crash just staring at the desktop with nothing (user based) running.  WOW.

I was looking this morning on YouTube for a video on disassembly and cleaning and the autocomplete instead went to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djlc6uHTVmY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;disappointed&lt;/a&gt;.

Seems kind of appropriate.

Although, physically it&#039;s a nice portable machine.  Maybe it is the Operating System.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255628">Richard Birch</a>.</p>
<p>At first things were &#8216;fine&#8217; on Catalina, but I&#8217;m now getting these &#8220;no successful checkins from com.apple.WindowServer&#8221; all the time.  I thought it was GPU related as I was pushing it pretty hard, and when it crashed out, I opened it up and it was HOT.  So I had to download one of those fan utilities and push the thing to 100% which sure helped with the cooling but sadly not with the crashing.</p>
<p>This thing will crash just staring at the desktop with nothing (user based) running.  WOW.</p>
<p>I was looking this morning on YouTube for a video on disassembly and cleaning and the autocomplete instead went to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djlc6uHTVmY" rel="nofollow ugc">disappointed</a>.</p>
<p>Seems kind of appropriate.</p>
<p>Although, physically it&#8217;s a nice portable machine.  Maybe it is the Operating System.</p>
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		By: Richard Birch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Birch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2020 23:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Install Mojave if you want 32-bit support. I still run it because Catalina has been a buggy mess. How did someone kill your MacPro in a day?!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Install Mojave if you want 32-bit support. I still run it because Catalina has been a buggy mess. How did someone kill your MacPro in a day?!</p>
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		By: crazyc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crazyc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255439&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Winevdm works in reactos so I&#039;m sure that it&#039;ll work in crossover (you might need to remove the wine win16 dlls because of the name conflict).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255439">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>Winevdm works in reactos so I&#8217;m sure that it&#8217;ll work in crossover (you might need to remove the wine win16 dlls because of the name conflict).</p>
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		By: crazyc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crazyc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255398&quot;&gt;calvin&lt;/a&gt;.

Crossover for catalina creates ldt entries to make the 32-bit segments it needs.  https://marc.info/?l=wine-devel&#038;m=157610999725233&#038;w=2  Possibly macos doesn&#039;t permit 16-bit code segments due to the stack pointer leakage problem that espfix is for in linux.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255398">calvin</a>.</p>
<p>Crossover for catalina creates ldt entries to make the 32-bit segments it needs.  <a href="https://marc.info/?l=wine-devel&#038;m=157610999725233&#038;w=2" rel="nofollow ugc">https://marc.info/?l=wine-devel&#038;m=157610999725233&#038;w=2</a>  Possibly macos doesn&#8217;t permit 16-bit code segments due to the stack pointer leakage problem that espfix is for in linux.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2020 03:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255409&quot;&gt;James Bryant&lt;/a&gt;.

It certainly opens up the world for it.  Amazingly it seems few people have 64bit their applications making OS X far more of an island.

At this point its more likely Apple just wants out of the PC business.  Can&#039;t blame them, even the worst selling iWhatever absolutely crushes Mac sales, which honestly have always been incredibly weak.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255409">James Bryant</a>.</p>
<p>It certainly opens up the world for it.  Amazingly it seems few people have 64bit their applications making OS X far more of an island.</p>
<p>At this point its more likely Apple just wants out of the PC business.  Can&#8217;t blame them, even the worst selling iWhatever absolutely crushes Mac sales, which honestly have always been incredibly weak.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2020 03:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255398&quot;&gt;calvin&lt;/a&gt;.

I guess it was amazing that they worked on older OS X at all...

I haven&#039;t tried WineVDM under wine yet, but it being 100% synthetic CPU emulation ought to work.  I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255398">calvin</a>.</p>
<p>I guess it was amazing that they worked on older OS X at all&#8230;</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t tried WineVDM under wine yet, but it being 100% synthetic CPU emulation ought to work.  I think.</p>
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		By: James Bryant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2020 22:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255398&quot;&gt;calvin&lt;/a&gt;.

I didn&#039;t know that 16-bit programs wouldn&#039;t work on Wine/Mac/Catalina.  I guess I need to hurry up and make an official release of Boxedwine on Mac since it can emulate 16-bit just fine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/04/18/so-i-was-offered-a-macpro-6-1-aka-the-trashcan/comment-page-1/#comment-255398">calvin</a>.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that 16-bit programs wouldn&#8217;t work on Wine/Mac/Catalina.  I guess I need to hurry up and make an official release of Boxedwine on Mac since it can emulate 16-bit just fine.</p>
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		By: calvin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[calvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2020 21:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[win16 requires the kernel do some LDT shuffling, which is Really Dangerous. i think Linux is unique by letting you do it at all (if it hasn&#039;t been disabled by sysctl).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>win16 requires the kernel do some LDT shuffling, which is Really Dangerous. i think Linux is unique by letting you do it at all (if it hasn&#8217;t been disabled by sysctl).</p>
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