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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2019 02:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2019/08/04/scored-what-i-hope-is-an-awesome-motherboard-for-30/comment-page-1/#comment-219339&quot;&gt;Malcolm&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, the 8514/A is supported by a bunch of older products.   If I recall the real &#039;issue&#039; is that it&#039;s an incredibly low refresh rate, which LCD&#039;s may not enjoy.

I just remembered the ATI Mach 32 is compatible!  That&#039;s the card to get.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2019/08/04/scored-what-i-hope-is-an-awesome-motherboard-for-30/comment-page-1/#comment-219339">Malcolm</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, the 8514/A is supported by a bunch of older products.   If I recall the real &#8216;issue&#8217; is that it&#8217;s an incredibly low refresh rate, which LCD&#8217;s may not enjoy.</p>
<p>I just remembered the ATI Mach 32 is compatible!  That&#8217;s the card to get.</p>
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		By: Malcolm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2019 00:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2019/08/04/scored-what-i-hope-is-an-awesome-motherboard-for-30/comment-page-1/#comment-219306&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

In terms of 8514, have you seen http://www.os2museum.com/wp/the-8514a-graphics-accelerator/ ? I only ran into this the other day and didn&#039;t really understand what made it unique until now.  It&#039;s a shame that it&#039;s not better supported by virtualization products, since it offers high resolution capabilities and limited acceleration capabilities with supported drivers in older systems.  The only reason I was looking into it is after successfully installing OS/2 1.3 (yay!) but it&#039;d be really nice to have it in 1024x768x256 ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2019/08/04/scored-what-i-hope-is-an-awesome-motherboard-for-30/comment-page-1/#comment-219306">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>In terms of 8514, have you seen <a href="http://www.os2museum.com/wp/the-8514a-graphics-accelerator/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.os2museum.com/wp/the-8514a-graphics-accelerator/</a> ? I only ran into this the other day and didn&#8217;t really understand what made it unique until now.  It&#8217;s a shame that it&#8217;s not better supported by virtualization products, since it offers high resolution capabilities and limited acceleration capabilities with supported drivers in older systems.  The only reason I was looking into it is after successfully installing OS/2 1.3 (yay!) but it&#8217;d be really nice to have it in 1024x768x256 &#8230;</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2019 20:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2019/08/04/scored-what-i-hope-is-an-awesome-motherboard-for-30/comment-page-1/#comment-219282&quot;&gt;Malcolm&lt;/a&gt;.

It may be that much RAM, I haven&#039;t been able to test it, as the trains and many roads were shut down today.  And I live out in the villages so it&#039;s not like there is any real alternative short of going be sea... Although I have been thinking about getting a boat, but the kids are just too young right now.

I&#039;m hoping it&#039;ll throttle down to 1.1, although there is only one way to find out, much like the actual memory.  That is assuming it&#039;ll work.

Shame it only has a single ISA slot though.  I may try to see if I can find some industrial expander, although that&#039;ll make this large thing into something of a monstrosity.  I think Matrox or someone made an XGA/SVGA card.  It&#039;s funny how that 8514 thing kind of got skipped over in history and enthusiast spaces.  I used to do work for someone who had one of those setups, and OS/2 2.0 was so incredible with all that realestate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2019/08/04/scored-what-i-hope-is-an-awesome-motherboard-for-30/comment-page-1/#comment-219282">Malcolm</a>.</p>
<p>It may be that much RAM, I haven&#8217;t been able to test it, as the trains and many roads were shut down today.  And I live out in the villages so it&#8217;s not like there is any real alternative short of going be sea&#8230; Although I have been thinking about getting a boat, but the kids are just too young right now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping it&#8217;ll throttle down to 1.1, although there is only one way to find out, much like the actual memory.  That is assuming it&#8217;ll work.</p>
<p>Shame it only has a single ISA slot though.  I may try to see if I can find some industrial expander, although that&#8217;ll make this large thing into something of a monstrosity.  I think Matrox or someone made an XGA/SVGA card.  It&#8217;s funny how that 8514 thing kind of got skipped over in history and enthusiast spaces.  I used to do work for someone who had one of those setups, and OS/2 2.0 was so incredible with all that realestate.</p>
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		By: Malcolm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2019 18:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[128Mb RAM? Doesn&#039;t the picture show 2x256Mb sticks with an extra 2 unlabelled (so presumably either 768Mb or 1024Mb?)

It&#039;ll be interesting to see what MPS compatibility it has.  PIII would normally be far newer than MPS 1.1, although it looks like many boards let you choose which version to support.  The good thing about older versions is being able to use older systems; eg. NT 3.51 should support MP with MPS 1.1.  I still don&#039;t have a multiproc 3.51 under virtualization, because they emulate a newer version that it doesn&#039;t understand.

Fwiw, I have a single proc 850Mhz PIII with 768Mb RAM running NT4.  It&#039;s fantastic, but my advice is to get a good GPU to go with it.  I have a 5500FX PCI card, which is old enough to have NT 4 drivers but new enough to do 1080p and play any game that has NT 4 support.  If you want to run older systems though you might want something older.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>128Mb RAM? Doesn&#8217;t the picture show 2x256Mb sticks with an extra 2 unlabelled (so presumably either 768Mb or 1024Mb?)</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see what MPS compatibility it has.  PIII would normally be far newer than MPS 1.1, although it looks like many boards let you choose which version to support.  The good thing about older versions is being able to use older systems; eg. NT 3.51 should support MP with MPS 1.1.  I still don&#8217;t have a multiproc 3.51 under virtualization, because they emulate a newer version that it doesn&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>Fwiw, I have a single proc 850Mhz PIII with 768Mb RAM running NT4.  It&#8217;s fantastic, but my advice is to get a good GPU to go with it.  I have a 5500FX PCI card, which is old enough to have NT 4 drivers but new enough to do 1080p and play any game that has NT 4 support.  If you want to run older systems though you might want something older.</p>
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