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		By: Steve Sybesma		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-322697</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Sybesma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2023 21:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Appears nothing from before July 2002.
If the mirror was done after that, the older BysSys stuff is gone forever.
For many retro PC fans, that was the valuable stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appears nothing from before July 2002.<br />
If the mirror was done after that, the older BysSys stuff is gone forever.<br />
For many retro PC fans, that was the valuable stuff.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200550</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 02:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200549&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep guilty of NTFS, I didn&#039;t think it&#039;d make all that much difference in sub allocations, but I guess it makes sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200549">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>Yep guilty of NTFS, I didn&#8217;t think it&#8217;d make all that much difference in sub allocations, but I guess it makes sense.</p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200549</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 02:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200546&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

Okay, I guess there isn&#039;t really any difference, apart from 2 filenames which appear to be encoded differently:

$ rsync -rlDvnih --modify-window=172800 --delete ftpmirror.your.org::pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com/ ftp.microsoft.com/
receiving incremental file list
*deleting   bussys/exchange/exchange-public/fixes/Brz/Exchg5.5/Sp2/LICENАA.RTF
&#062;f+++++++++ bussys/exchange/exchange-public/fixes/Brz/Exchg5.5/Sp2/LICEN\#200A.RTF
*deleting   bussys/exchange/exchange-public/fixes/Por/Exchg5.5/Sp2/LICENАA.RTF
&#062;f+++++++++ bussys/exchange/exchange-public/fixes/Por/Exchg5.5/Sp2/LICEN\#200A.RTF

sent 36.28K bytes  received 2.67M bytes  34.86K bytes/sec
total size is 76.95G  speedup is 28,485.20 (DRY RUN)

I set the modify window to 2 days because all the timestamps didn&#039;t match, presumably due to time zones.

I don&#039;t get why your &#039;du&#039; command shows less total space than the number of bytes in all the files (unless I&#039;m reading the output of &#039;unzip&#039; wrong).  Maybe you&#039;re using NTFS, and there are some files small enough to fit into the NTFS tree or wherever it puts tiny files, and they&#039;re considered to have a disk usage of 0?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200546">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>Okay, I guess there isn&#8217;t really any difference, apart from 2 filenames which appear to be encoded differently:</p>
<p>$ rsync -rlDvnih &#8211;modify-window=172800 &#8211;delete ftpmirror.your.org::pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com/ <a href="http://ftp.microsoft.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ftp.microsoft.com/</a><br />
receiving incremental file list<br />
*deleting   bussys/exchange/exchange-public/fixes/Brz/Exchg5.5/Sp2/LICENАA.RTF<br />
&gt;f+++++++++ bussys/exchange/exchange-public/fixes/Brz/Exchg5.5/Sp2/LICEN\#200A.RTF<br />
*deleting   bussys/exchange/exchange-public/fixes/Por/Exchg5.5/Sp2/LICENАA.RTF<br />
&gt;f+++++++++ bussys/exchange/exchange-public/fixes/Por/Exchg5.5/Sp2/LICEN\#200A.RTF</p>
<p>sent 36.28K bytes  received 2.67M bytes  34.86K bytes/sec<br />
total size is 76.95G  speedup is 28,485.20 (DRY RUN)</p>
<p>I set the modify window to 2 days because all the timestamps didn&#8217;t match, presumably due to time zones.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get why your &#8216;du&#8217; command shows less total space than the number of bytes in all the files (unless I&#8217;m reading the output of &#8216;unzip&#8217; wrong).  Maybe you&#8217;re using NTFS, and there are some files small enough to fit into the NTFS tree or wherever it puts tiny files, and they&#8217;re considered to have a disk usage of 0?</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200548</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 02:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200547&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah must be some setting somewhere that they turned on... when I look at the direct text, of course it&#039;s not there.

Sigh every time they make things &#039;safe&#039; it just screws things up like how it&#039;s always messing with quotes and math symbols.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200547">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah must be some setting somewhere that they turned on&#8230; when I look at the direct text, of course it&#8217;s not there.</p>
<p>Sigh every time they make things &#8216;safe&#8217; it just screws things up like how it&#8217;s always messing with quotes and math symbols.</p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200547</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 02:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200546&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

Wordpress helpfully assumed that every time I said ftp dot microsoft dot com it was missing http:// from the front :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200546">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>WordPress helpfully assumed that every time I said ftp dot microsoft dot com it was missing http:// from the front 🙂</p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200546</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 02:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200524&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

For the one from archive.org:

$ du -sh ftp.microsoft.com/
72G    ftp.microsoft.com/

That could just be due to filesystem minimum allocation sizes, but:

$ unzip -v ftp.microsoft.com.zip &#124; tail -n 1
76954935986        70894753063   8%                            153890 files

The first number is the uncompressed size and works out to 71.67GiB which I figure should round up to 72GiB.

Looks like http://ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com/ may also be accessible via rsync so I might be able to figure out what is missing without transferring another 71GiB of data.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200524">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>For the one from archive.org:</p>
<p>$ du -sh <a href="http://ftp.microsoft.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ftp.microsoft.com/</a><br />
72G    <a href="http://ftp.microsoft.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ftp.microsoft.com/</a></p>
<p>That could just be due to filesystem minimum allocation sizes, but:</p>
<p>$ unzip -v <a href="http://ftp.microsoft.com.zip" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ftp.microsoft.com.zip</a> | tail -n 1<br />
76954935986        70894753063   8%                            153890 files</p>
<p>The first number is the uncompressed size and works out to 71.67GiB which I figure should round up to 72GiB.</p>
<p>Looks like <a href="http://ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com/</a> may also be accessible via rsync so I might be able to figure out what is missing without transferring another 71GiB of data.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200524</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2018 11:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200522&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

I havent downloaded the torrent from archive.org but I have 71GB here..

$ du -hs ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com
71G     ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200522">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>I havent downloaded the torrent from archive.org but I have 71GB here..</p>
<p>$ du -hs ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com<br />
71G     ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com</p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2018 11:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know if there&#039;s anything at http://ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com/ which isn&#039;t in the archive.org mirror?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if there&#8217;s anything at <a href="http://ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/ftp.microsoft.com/</a> which isn&#8217;t in the archive.org mirror?</p>
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		By: GL1zdA		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200509</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GL1zdA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2018 20:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A mirror is already at archive.org:
https://archive.org/details/ftp.microsoft.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A mirror is already at archive.org:<br />
<a href="https://archive.org/details/ftp.microsoft.com" rel="nofollow ugc">https://archive.org/details/ftp.microsoft.com</a></p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200507</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2018 18:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200506&quot;&gt;xorhash&lt;/a&gt;.

wget -r -np  --level=0 

... it&#039;s going on now.  I&#039;m thinking about another altavista to search all the old KB&#039;s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/08/02/i-was-looking-for-something-from-the-old-microsoft-ftp/comment-page-1/#comment-200506">xorhash</a>.</p>
<p>wget -r -np  &#8211;level=0 </p>
<p>&#8230; it&#8217;s going on now.  I&#8217;m thinking about another altavista to search all the old KB&#8217;s.</p>
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