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		By: Grant Savcedo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grant Savcedo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 22:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, Sometimes your nav bar becomes invisible on my mac book, I thought you may like to know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Sometimes your nav bar becomes invisible on my mac book, I thought you may like to know.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198320&quot;&gt;bhtooefr&lt;/a&gt;.

I tried a while back to at least get a quote on something to read WordPress data and make it IE4 friendly... I didn&#039;t care if it&#039;d only run on IIS/ASP on NT 4, but I was either told 30,000 or people ran for the hills...  I should almost do it myself, but it&#039;s frankly too much effort lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198320">bhtooefr</a>.</p>
<p>I tried a while back to at least get a quote on something to read WordPress data and make it IE4 friendly&#8230; I didn&#8217;t care if it&#8217;d only run on IIS/ASP on NT 4, but I was either told 30,000 or people ran for the hills&#8230;  I should almost do it myself, but it&#8217;s frankly too much effort lol</p>
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		By: bhtooefr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bhtooefr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198318&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve already done some work on manually inserting some breaks and lines where appropriate (fun fact: &#060;hr&#062; is considered a semantic element nowadays... just one that every browser treats as a presentation element), but yeah, it does need some work in that respect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198318">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already done some work on manually inserting some breaks and lines where appropriate (fun fact: &lt;hr&gt; is considered a semantic element nowadays&#8230; just one that every browser treats as a presentation element), but yeah, it does need some work in that respect.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198289&quot;&gt;bhtooefr&lt;/a&gt;.

Can php resize?  I think stuff like breaks and lines would go a long way, and or imagemagick to convert down to low JPEG and GIF...

I&#039;d love for something like system7today.com just a bit more HTML/css that mosaic..  but I like the vibe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198289">bhtooefr</a>.</p>
<p>Can php resize?  I think stuff like breaks and lines would go a long way, and or imagemagick to convert down to low JPEG and GIF&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love for something like system7today.com just a bit more HTML/css that mosaic..  but I like the vibe.</p>
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		By: bhtooefr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bhtooefr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2018 23:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, hey, I wondered if anyone else was going to try it.

So, this definitely isn&#039;t finished, but part of my goal here is... semantic markup is OK, but styling should be kept to a minimum, and ideally handled by the client. So, basically, the idea is... design as if a stylesheet is present, and then just... don&#039;t apply a stylesheet. (OK, really, it was yank the stylesheet off of an existing theme and tweak it to work better without it.)

Table elements are OK - they&#039;re representing tabular data, which would&#039;ve required a &#060;pre&#062; tag before &#060;table&#062; was introduced - but note that even in the late 90s, a lot of sites kept to the plain, unstyled aesthetic.

I&#039;m even OK with using some modern HTML features to enhance the experience for newer clients, as long as old clients aren&#039;t missing out. (For instance, I&#039;m fine with using srcset to give HiDPI clients a higher resolution alternative image.)

The biggest weakness of the theme is... I need to manually make sure images are narrow enough. This means I actually have to edit older posts to fit. (And, if you&#039;re on an actual HTML 2.0 client, some of them don&#039;t respect height and width attributes in an &#060;img&#062; tag, IIRC, so you actually need to rescale I think...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, hey, I wondered if anyone else was going to try it.</p>
<p>So, this definitely isn&#8217;t finished, but part of my goal here is&#8230; semantic markup is OK, but styling should be kept to a minimum, and ideally handled by the client. So, basically, the idea is&#8230; design as if a stylesheet is present, and then just&#8230; don&#8217;t apply a stylesheet. (OK, really, it was yank the stylesheet off of an existing theme and tweak it to work better without it.)</p>
<p>Table elements are OK &#8211; they&#8217;re representing tabular data, which would&#8217;ve required a &lt;pre&gt; tag before &lt;table&gt; was introduced &#8211; but note that even in the late 90s, a lot of sites kept to the plain, unstyled aesthetic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m even OK with using some modern HTML features to enhance the experience for newer clients, as long as old clients aren&#8217;t missing out. (For instance, I&#8217;m fine with using srcset to give HiDPI clients a higher resolution alternative image.)</p>
<p>The biggest weakness of the theme is&#8230; I need to manually make sure images are narrow enough. This means I actually have to edit older posts to fit. (And, if you&#8217;re on an actual HTML 2.0 client, some of them don&#8217;t respect height and width attributes in an &lt;img&gt; tag, IIRC, so you actually need to rescale I think&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198112&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

sandstone texture, with frameset and animated gifs anyware, like good ol&#039; geocities!

Well, keep in mind that this theme tried to look more like really early websites, even before than when they started to play with bgcolor=&quot;&quot;, frameset and table elements everywhere!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198112">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>sandstone texture, with frameset and animated gifs anyware, like good ol&#8217; geocities!</p>
<p>Well, keep in mind that this theme tried to look more like really early websites, even before than when they started to play with bgcolor=&#8221;&#8221;, frameset and table elements everywhere!</p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 10:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t fool me, this site isn&#039;t from the mid &#039;90s or it&#039;d have a sandstone texture background image or something like that!

The link to the comments doesn&#039;t really stand out.  Maybe that&#039;s what bbslovag/dolan was trying to say :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t fool me, this site isn&#8217;t from the mid &#8217;90s or it&#8217;d have a sandstone texture background image or something like that!</p>
<p>The link to the comments doesn&#8217;t really stand out.  Maybe that&#8217;s what bbslovag/dolan was trying to say 🙂</p>
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		By: Wenting		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wenting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 15:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198071&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

So many good questions!
Shamefully, China is one of the biggest e-waste import country, this include industry equipments, measuring instruments, old cellphones, old computers. Many of them get disassembled, parts get &quot;recycled&quot;, which means being refurbished and sold as &quot;new&quot;. Which is mostly a bad thing for us, it is increasing hard for us to buy good quality parts, even on large distributers like Mouser or Element14, but this do give us some nice advantages. For example, we can easily buy used 8086 chips online. Also, as I have mentions, many of them get disassembled, but not all. In China you can buy all sorts of old computers from all over the world with relatively low price. PC98 from Japan, SPARCstation from the U.S., all sorts of these things. 
Yes, we were planning to have a meetup last year in SE China, but it was aborted due to lack of support.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198071">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>So many good questions!<br />
Shamefully, China is one of the biggest e-waste import country, this include industry equipments, measuring instruments, old cellphones, old computers. Many of them get disassembled, parts get &#8220;recycled&#8221;, which means being refurbished and sold as &#8220;new&#8221;. Which is mostly a bad thing for us, it is increasing hard for us to buy good quality parts, even on large distributers like Mouser or Element14, but this do give us some nice advantages. For example, we can easily buy used 8086 chips online. Also, as I have mentions, many of them get disassembled, but not all. In China you can buy all sorts of old computers from all over the world with relatively low price. PC98 from Japan, SPARCstation from the U.S., all sorts of these things.<br />
Yes, we were planning to have a meetup last year in SE China, but it was aborted due to lack of support.</p>
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		By: Jerry01		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry01]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2018 20:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amazing what you read here. Vintage computing in China is new for me too, but Im deep in the heart of Europe and not likely to come over there too soon. Anyway, the theme is ... well .. I get very nostalgic when looking at it, but the usability would be horrible. 

Those were the days, yes... but we have made some progress since then. Maybe something a bit nicer? To explain my meaning, Im a fan of the Commodore 64, but I would not try to program on it today. Not for my living, anyway...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing what you read here. Vintage computing in China is new for me too, but Im deep in the heart of Europe and not likely to come over there too soon. Anyway, the theme is &#8230; well .. I get very nostalgic when looking at it, but the usability would be horrible. </p>
<p>Those were the days, yes&#8230; but we have made some progress since then. Maybe something a bit nicer? To explain my meaning, Im a fan of the Commodore 64, but I would not try to program on it today. Not for my living, anyway&#8230;</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2018 16:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198068&quot;&gt;Wenting&lt;/a&gt;.

Vintage computing in China?  Where?  I&#039;m in Hong Kong, and I travel from time to time in SE China, and I haven&#039;t seen anything vintage!

Where do you find stuff? Do you do meetups and events?

So many questions!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/06/04/testing-wp-web1-0-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-198068">Wenting</a>.</p>
<p>Vintage computing in China?  Where?  I&#8217;m in Hong Kong, and I travel from time to time in SE China, and I haven&#8217;t seen anything vintage!</p>
<p>Where do you find stuff? Do you do meetups and events?</p>
<p>So many questions!</p>
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