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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2018 23:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-192755&quot;&gt;Richard.B&lt;/a&gt;.

The real hinderance for the RISC machines was the lack of any cross compiler.  Although having built stuff for PowerPC on OS X i386, it was far too often a best effort guess if it&#039;d run, and all too easy did it run on Rosetta emulation, but not bare iron.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-192755">Richard.B</a>.</p>
<p>The real hinderance for the RISC machines was the lack of any cross compiler.  Although having built stuff for PowerPC on OS X i386, it was far too often a best effort guess if it&#8217;d run, and all too easy did it run on Rosetta emulation, but not bare iron.</p>
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		By: Richard.B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard.B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2018 19:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Totally off topic, but I seem to recall reading on here that there&#039;s a real lack of Alpha software available... if you&#039;re after something audio based, there is Sonic Foundry ACID Music; I was shocked to see they mention Alpha support! It&#039;s on archive.org here:

https://archive.org/details/SonicFoundryACIDMusic]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally off topic, but I seem to recall reading on here that there&#8217;s a real lack of Alpha software available&#8230; if you&#8217;re after something audio based, there is Sonic Foundry ACID Music; I was shocked to see they mention Alpha support! It&#8217;s on archive.org here:</p>
<p><a href="https://archive.org/details/SonicFoundryACIDMusic" rel="nofollow ugc">https://archive.org/details/SonicFoundryACIDMusic</a></p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2018 08:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-191476&quot;&gt;tenox&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t remember Emacs 19.34 very well, but I&#039;m pretty sure it had syntax highlighting, drop-down menus (at least on X, but I imagine on Win32 too), etc.  It&#039;s just that things like syntax highlighting aren&#039;t turned on out of the box, and neither are CUA keys, so there&#039;s a big learning curve.

Also, a more mainstream contemporary editor, if anyone is interested:

PC Magazine - 13 Sep 1994 - Page 327: &quot;Visual SlickEdit for Windows, Version 1.5 ($295), a programming editor available for Microsoft Windows 3.1 and for Microsoft Windows NT on DEC Alpha AXP, MIPS, and x86 platforms.&quot;

I&#039;ve never tried it, nor do I have it, it just occurred to me that there might have been a SlickEdit build for Alpha, so I checked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-191476">tenox</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember Emacs 19.34 very well, but I&#8217;m pretty sure it had syntax highlighting, drop-down menus (at least on X, but I imagine on Win32 too), etc.  It&#8217;s just that things like syntax highlighting aren&#8217;t turned on out of the box, and neither are CUA keys, so there&#8217;s a big learning curve.</p>
<p>Also, a more mainstream contemporary editor, if anyone is interested:</p>
<p>PC Magazine &#8211; 13 Sep 1994 &#8211; Page 327: &#8220;Visual SlickEdit for Windows, Version 1.5 ($295), a programming editor available for Microsoft Windows 3.1 and for Microsoft Windows NT on DEC Alpha AXP, MIPS, and x86 platforms.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never tried it, nor do I have it, it just occurred to me that there might have been a SlickEdit build for Alpha, so I checked.</p>
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		By: Andrey ``Bass'' Shcheglov		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrey ``Bass'' Shcheglov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2018 08:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-191395&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

Additionally, this page: ftp://69.43.38.172/mirrors/cd.textfiles.com/cica9710/ALPHA/00_INDEX.HTM contains Emacs 19.17 builds as well as lots of other AXP stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-191395">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>Additionally, this page: <a href="ftp://69.43.38.172/mirrors/cd.textfiles.com/cica9710/ALPHA/00_INDEX.HTM" rel="ugc">ftp://69.43.38.172/mirrors/cd.textfiles.com/cica9710/ALPHA/00_INDEX.HTM</a> contains Emacs 19.17 builds as well as lots of other AXP stuff.</p>
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		By: tenox		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tenox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2018 11:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-191395&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

Well I probably should have meant GUI based editor. Emacs and vi decent as they are I wanted some nice GUI with syntax highlighting etc. For text / console editors there will be another post soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-191395">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>Well I probably should have meant GUI based editor. Emacs and vi decent as they are I wanted some nice GUI with syntax highlighting etc. For text / console editors there will be another post soon.</p>
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		By: Fabian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fabian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 23:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-191395&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

Just tried to get it working for 5 minutes, but it always crashes on my Alphastation with NT4. I will use some more time on it during the next few days. 

On a different note: I just realised that there are alpha binaries of tar, gunzip and gzip here: https://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/utilities/alpha/ 
They are pretty old (1993), but they do work...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-191395">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>Just tried to get it working for 5 minutes, but it always crashes on my Alphastation with NT4. I will use some more time on it during the next few days. </p>
<p>On a different note: I just realised that there are alpha binaries of tar, gunzip and gzip here: <a href="https://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/utilities/alpha/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/utilities/alpha/</a><br />
They are pretty old (1993), but they do work&#8230;</p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 10:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was going to make a joke about &quot;decent editors&quot; meaning Emacs and vi must not be available, but I checked and Emacs at least is - http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/19.34/ contains alpha, i386, mips and ppc binaries apparently.  I haven&#039;t actually tried any of them, and I know not many people would actually like to use them :)  These look nice!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to make a joke about &#8220;decent editors&#8221; meaning Emacs and vi must not be available, but I checked and Emacs at least is &#8211; <a href="http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/19.34/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/19.34/</a> contains alpha, i386, mips and ppc binaries apparently.  I haven&#8217;t actually tried any of them, and I know not many people would actually like to use them 🙂  These look nice!</p>
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		By: tenox		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tenox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 06:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-191355&quot;&gt;calvin&lt;/a&gt;.

And I often did but VS6 text editor is still poor compared to something like Crimson.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2018/02/09/crimson-editor-and-metapad-for-alpha-axp-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-191355">calvin</a>.</p>
<p>And I often did but VS6 text editor is still poor compared to something like Crimson.</p>
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		By: Fabian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fabian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2018 23:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is awesome! Please continue to dig up stuff like this for AXP machines!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome! Please continue to dig up stuff like this for AXP machines!</p>
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		By: calvin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[calvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2018 14:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I mean, one could use the VS IDE as a (big) text editor...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, one could use the VS IDE as a (big) text editor&#8230;</p>
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