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		By: Alex		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2016 14:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-175051&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

I realized. I&#039;m personally interested the old software in the sense that we can not say that previously logic was &quot;worse&quot; than now. And, yes, oldschool, very like it. .. Again, btw, just read your post about Roland SC-88 :) I have Roland RAP-10 bought around 1993, ISA interface, yes thinking about how to..... just found only such a solution - http://arstech.com/install/ecom-prodshow/usb2isar.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-175051">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>I realized. I&#8217;m personally interested the old software in the sense that we can not say that previously logic was &#8220;worse&#8221; than now. And, yes, oldschool, very like it. .. Again, btw, just read your post about Roland SC-88 🙂 I have Roland RAP-10 bought around 1993, ISA interface, yes thinking about how to&#8230;.. just found only such a solution &#8211; <a href="http://arstech.com/install/ecom-prodshow/usb2isar.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://arstech.com/install/ecom-prodshow/usb2isar.html</a></p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-175049&quot;&gt;Alex&lt;/a&gt;.

I had SP2 on hand, but didn&#039;t have Sp3, and I honestly didn&#039;t feel like downloading it.  I was curious to see how &#039;useful&#039; a SP1/SP2 based machine would be to keep that vintage &#039;99 feeling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-175049">Alex</a>.</p>
<p>I had SP2 on hand, but didn&#8217;t have Sp3, and I honestly didn&#8217;t feel like downloading it.  I was curious to see how &#8216;useful&#8217; a SP1/SP2 based machine would be to keep that vintage &#8217;99 feeling.</p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2016 09:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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    As always I updated to service pack 2
    Hello, why not to sp3, btw ?
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    As always I updated to service pack 2<br />
    Hello, why not to sp3, btw ?
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-171813</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2016 01:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-171788&quot;&gt;._.&lt;/a&gt;.

I almost loaded steamos, but honestly I grew fatigued of Linux in 1996.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-171788">._.</a>.</p>
<p>I almost loaded steamos, but honestly I grew fatigued of Linux in 1996.</p>
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		By: ._.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Slap a linux distro on that machine and enjoy newest software ;)]]></description>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-171743</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2016 00:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-171731&quot;&gt;Christian&lt;/a&gt;.

Im using it to run Visual Studio 2003/2005 to deploy some .net stuff to existing Windows 2003 x64 servers.  So it&#039;s a chance to basically run the same thing, as XP x64 is the same kernel as 2003 &#038; 2003 x64.

It&#039;s funny that by the numbers my newer Xeon with Windows 10 is faster, but this older thing feels faster.

I see on &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#.22Sossaman.22_.2865_nm.29&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this wiki page&lt;/a&gt; here, that my 5160 is 80watts, while this mobile Xeon you mention is 31/15 watt.  Much better power for sure.

For $99 I&#039;m still not complaining about this old klunker.  I may put Windows 10 on it again, as my wife&#039;s desktop is getting insanely slow for some reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-171731">Christian</a>.</p>
<p>Im using it to run Visual Studio 2003/2005 to deploy some .net stuff to existing Windows 2003 x64 servers.  So it&#8217;s a chance to basically run the same thing, as XP x64 is the same kernel as 2003 &amp; 2003 x64.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that by the numbers my newer Xeon with Windows 10 is faster, but this older thing feels faster.</p>
<p>I see on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#.22Sossaman.22_.2865_nm.29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this wiki page</a> here, that my 5160 is 80watts, while this mobile Xeon you mention is 31/15 watt.  Much better power for sure.</p>
<p>For $99 I&#8217;m still not complaining about this old klunker.  I may put Windows 10 on it again, as my wife&#8217;s desktop is getting insanely slow for some reason.</p>
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		By: Christian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 17:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My &quot;dream setup&quot; from circa 2006 would be two Sossaman Xeons; these were derived from the Core Duo. 32-bit only I know, but SMP using what are essentially laptop processors is very cool in my opinion. They&#039;re not easy to come by, the same goes for the motherboard though.

As for nested virtualisation, I&#039;ve usually found it to be pretty stable but have to admit Virtual PC is usually not part of it.

So what will you mainly use this machine for?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My &#8220;dream setup&#8221; from circa 2006 would be two Sossaman Xeons; these were derived from the Core Duo. 32-bit only I know, but SMP using what are essentially laptop processors is very cool in my opinion. They&#8217;re not easy to come by, the same goes for the motherboard though.</p>
<p>As for nested virtualisation, I&#8217;ve usually found it to be pretty stable but have to admit Virtual PC is usually not part of it.</p>
<p>So what will you mainly use this machine for?</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 05:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-171701&quot;&gt;Luca&lt;/a&gt;.

Everything costs money, If you want performance, you either pay up front for bigger and more modern processors, or more utility bill, and smaller upfront.

Besides when I&#039;m not using it, I would have this thing powered off, there is no point idling a Xenon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-171701">Luca</a>.</p>
<p>Everything costs money, If you want performance, you either pay up front for bigger and more modern processors, or more utility bill, and smaller upfront.</p>
<p>Besides when I&#8217;m not using it, I would have this thing powered off, there is no point idling a Xenon.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 05:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-171707&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, pretty much when compared to emulation, the real thing is so much faster!  Plus I can run Virtual PC without it crashing anywhere near as often as running it nested.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/09/08/retro-computing-for-99/comment-page-1/#comment-171707">Peter</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, pretty much when compared to emulation, the real thing is so much faster!  Plus I can run Virtual PC without it crashing anywhere near as often as running it nested.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 05:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I needed a new workstation for home last year, and after looking at various options, I ended up buying a used Precision T3500 with a Xeon W3680 and 12GB ECC RAM for about the same price as an i5 processor alone. Dropped in an SSD and it flies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I needed a new workstation for home last year, and after looking at various options, I ended up buying a used Precision T3500 with a Xeon W3680 and 12GB ECC RAM for about the same price as an i5 processor alone. Dropped in an SSD and it flies.</p>
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