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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164072</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2016 02:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164049&quot;&gt;raijinzrael&lt;/a&gt;.

Well you didn&#039;t have to &#039;craft&#039; MS-DOS exe&#039;s to run on NTVDM, nor did you have to &#039;craft&#039; OS/2 executables to run on the OS2SS ...  It was really always up to MS.  They easily could have supported Xenix COFF exe&#039;s if they wanted, or Solaris x86 ELF.  At the time I think the fear was that if NT did such a good job of running UNIX based stuff, it&#039;d be just another UNIX, instead of a Windows server based OS.

The western world of business does love it&#039;s SLA&#039;s and support agreements (even if they actually offer zero support...) so this actually a big win for FOSS, and more so a loss for the Linux kernel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164049">raijinzrael</a>.</p>
<p>Well you didn&#8217;t have to &#8216;craft&#8217; MS-DOS exe&#8217;s to run on NTVDM, nor did you have to &#8216;craft&#8217; OS/2 executables to run on the OS2SS &#8230;  It was really always up to MS.  They easily could have supported Xenix COFF exe&#8217;s if they wanted, or Solaris x86 ELF.  At the time I think the fear was that if NT did such a good job of running UNIX based stuff, it&#8217;d be just another UNIX, instead of a Windows server based OS.</p>
<p>The western world of business does love it&#8217;s SLA&#8217;s and support agreements (even if they actually offer zero support&#8230;) so this actually a big win for FOSS, and more so a loss for the Linux kernel.</p>
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		By: raijinzrael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raijinzrael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 19:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164029&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

This just shows how flexible NT kernel can really be. God bless Mr. Cutler for it!.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164029">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>This just shows how flexible NT kernel can really be. God bless Mr. Cutler for it!.</p>
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		By: raijinzrael		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164051</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raijinzrael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 19:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164038&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Windows being a better Linux than Linux? Maybe ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164038">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>Windows being a better Linux than Linux? Maybe 😉</p>
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		By: raijinzrael		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164049</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raijinzrael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 18:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164039&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Except that you don&#039;t need to craft your own special PE COFFs with Subsystem-Posix bit header set on. This will run natively ELFs compiled with your latest GCC/Clang flavor.

Is said technology powering this Linux subsystem can be used later also to bring true Win32 app support to Windows Phone devices with Continuum technology enabled. Good innovation old times are coming again by MS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164039">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>Except that you don&#8217;t need to craft your own special PE COFFs with Subsystem-Posix bit header set on. This will run natively ELFs compiled with your latest GCC/Clang flavor.</p>
<p>Is said technology powering this Linux subsystem can be used later also to bring true Win32 app support to Windows Phone devices with Continuum technology enabled. Good innovation old times are coming again by MS.</p>
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		By: raijinzrael		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164046</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raijinzrael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 18:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-163904&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Checkmate :-).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-163904">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Checkmate :-).</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 17:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-163952&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

This is nothing like coLinux though, that carved out it&#039;s own memory space, this is more like POSIX, and the Internetix subsysems from before.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-163952">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>This is nothing like coLinux though, that carved out it&#8217;s own memory space, this is more like POSIX, and the Internetix subsysems from before.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164038</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 17:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164003&quot;&gt;Richard Wells&lt;/a&gt;.

absolutely.  Big business will be all over this as a way to get OS support from MS, and app support as a best effort, instead of both as a best effort.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164003">Richard Wells</a>.</p>
<p>absolutely.  Big business will be all over this as a way to get OS support from MS, and app support as a best effort, instead of both as a best effort.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164037</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 17:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164029&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Kind of?  It&#039;s back to the old days with the promise of the microkernel with multiple personalities.  Now they are making a &quot;Linux&quot; personality that can run an unmodified Ubuntu(Debian) userland.  It&#039;s a good win any way you slice it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2016/03/31/posix-linux-returns-to-windows-10-nt/comment-page-1/#comment-164029">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Kind of?  It&#8217;s back to the old days with the promise of the microkernel with multiple personalities.  Now they are making a &#8220;Linux&#8221; personality that can run an unmodified Ubuntu(Debian) userland.  It&#8217;s a good win any way you slice it.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[so it&#039;s like user-mode-linux on windows?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so it&#8217;s like user-mode-linux on windows?</p>
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		By: Richard Wells		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Wells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 13:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think MS just wants to capture some of the open source NoSQL database business. While those can be recompiled for Windows, some releases expect Linux utilities to be readily called. Implementing limited command line Ubuntu should be easier than getting developers to switch to equivalent Windows utilities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think MS just wants to capture some of the open source NoSQL database business. While those can be recompiled for Windows, some releases expect Linux utilities to be readily called. Implementing limited command line Ubuntu should be easier than getting developers to switch to equivalent Windows utilities.</p>
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