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		By: DOS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2015 14:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-129753&quot;&gt;neglectoru&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, it seems to work when applied to Bochs 2.6.8 (I can boot the hard disk image from the top of the article).  From a quick look at some ATA specs, it looks like this is a valid thing to do.  Maybe one day I&#039;ll submit a patch to Bochs for this.

If only I knew how to slow Bochs down so I could play /usr/game/chase (pass -c flag for color) which seems to be a Pac Man clone, I guess other emulators will have this feature.

For the record, qemu 2.4.0.1 also works, not that I did too much under it except boot the hard disk image.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-129753">neglectoru</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, it seems to work when applied to Bochs 2.6.8 (I can boot the hard disk image from the top of the article).  From a quick look at some ATA specs, it looks like this is a valid thing to do.  Maybe one day I&#8217;ll submit a patch to Bochs for this.</p>
<p>If only I knew how to slow Bochs down so I could play /usr/game/chase (pass -c flag for color) which seems to be a Pac Man clone, I guess other emulators will have this feature.</p>
<p>For the record, qemu 2.4.0.1 also works, not that I did too much under it except boot the hard disk image.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-130897&quot;&gt;SA1988&lt;/a&gt;.

Indeed it does run!  And it&#039;s much more stabler than Qemu.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-130897">SA1988</a>.</p>
<p>Indeed it does run!  And it&#8217;s much more stabler than Qemu.</p>
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		By: SA1988		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SA1988]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the latest svn rv of pcem can run this piece of software :) (as of rv202).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the latest svn rv of pcem can run this piece of software 🙂 (as of rv202).</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-129952</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2015 02:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-129943&quot;&gt;Nick&lt;/a&gt;.

Qemu is probably the easiest to use, as you can then &#039;mount&#039; a directory as a fat disk, and copy in the source that way... I haven&#039;t seen how to build the kernel yet though...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-129943">Nick</a>.</p>
<p>Qemu is probably the easiest to use, as you can then &#8216;mount&#8217; a directory as a fat disk, and copy in the source that way&#8230; I haven&#8217;t seen how to build the kernel yet though&#8230;</p>
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		By: Nick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2015 21:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I ran into the PCEm panic so I went away and installed on a 386DX40 with IDE controller and a 256MB compact flash card. I&#039;ve also got a 1542 but I can&#039;t find a drive in the attic to fit it...

 No problems with the install just unfamiliarity with unices of that vintage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran into the PCEm panic so I went away and installed on a 386DX40 with IDE controller and a 256MB compact flash card. I&#8217;ve also got a 1542 but I can&#8217;t find a drive in the attic to fit it&#8230;</p>
<p> No problems with the install just unfamiliarity with unices of that vintage.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 07:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-129753&quot;&gt;neglectoru&lt;/a&gt;.

it could be worth a shot...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-129753">neglectoru</a>.</p>
<p>it could be worth a shot&#8230;</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 07:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-129760&quot;&gt;Raijinzrael&lt;/a&gt;.

I was busy fighting glib2 on OS X... &lt;a href=&quot;http://pcem-emulator.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=158&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;ve posted it&lt;/a&gt;, so we&#039;ll see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-129760">Raijinzrael</a>.</p>
<p>I was busy fighting glib2 on OS X&#8230; <a href="http://pcem-emulator.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&#038;t=158" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;ve posted it</a>, so we&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		By: Raijinzrael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raijinzrael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 22:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Would be really nice if you could report the bug that you found running Coherent in PCEm to PCEm team, so they can fix it :-).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would be really nice if you could report the bug that you found running Coherent in PCEm to PCEm team, so they can fix it :-).</p>
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		By: crazyc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crazyc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 22:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-129744&quot;&gt;crazyc&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And for that matter if the 386 can’t swap it’s probably not using the good old 4k pages/4gig address space…? &lt;/blockquote&gt;Paging is enabled and all the segments have 0 base and 4G limits so it shouldn&#039;t have any address space limitations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2015/01/13/coherent-vs-ide-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-129744">crazyc</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>And for that matter if the 386 can’t swap it’s probably not using the good old 4k pages/4gig address space…? </p></blockquote>
<p>Paging is enabled and all the segments have 0 base and 4G limits so it shouldn&#8217;t have any address space limitations.</p>
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		By: neglectoru		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neglectoru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 20:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This seems naive, but if you recompile (hack) bochs such that command 0x31 (write sector no retry) does the same thing as 0x30 (write sector with retry), I wonder if it would work...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems naive, but if you recompile (hack) bochs such that command 0x31 (write sector no retry) does the same thing as 0x30 (write sector with retry), I wonder if it would work&#8230;</p>
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