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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-80530&quot;&gt;Raijinzrael&lt;/a&gt;.

where on IRC?

I got the ethernet running super fast but something keeps causing the network stack to stall... fast or slow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-80530">Raijinzrael</a>.</p>
<p>where on IRC?</p>
<p>I got the ethernet running super fast but something keeps causing the network stack to stall&#8230; fast or slow.</p>
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		By: Raijinzrael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raijinzrael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2014 02:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t forgot about the project, but i&#039;m still preparing and testing a suitable software only environment for this.

Also, would be easier to talk in realtime via IRC if you can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t forgot about the project, but i&#8217;m still preparing and testing a suitable software only environment for this.</p>
<p>Also, would be easier to talk in realtime via IRC if you can.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-80050&quot;&gt;Raijinzrael&lt;/a&gt;.

also what do I need to drive a CD-ROM on say OS 8? I recall apple people going through hell to get CD&#039;s working..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-80050">Raijinzrael</a>.</p>
<p>also what do I need to drive a CD-ROM on say OS 8? I recall apple people going through hell to get CD&#8217;s working..</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-80050&quot;&gt;Raijinzrael&lt;/a&gt;.

test cases work the best.  Like doing x with y, and what it should look like.  The more I can do 100% in software the more likely it is.  I know it&#039;s kind of funny but I never used or liked Mac&#039;s from this era so I&#039;m like the worst person for sourcing this stuff since I did my best to not use a mac.  I was a diehard MS-DOS / Unix guy.  A/UX was a fun detour but I used it as a UNIX machine, with the occasional office app but I mostly had terminals open.  I didn&#039;t even use X11 on A/UX.

But yeah even what software levels to do what is great I don&#039;t know what should go with what... something like a 68030 XMb of ram, this kind of ROM, what OS, this application to do what.  I haven&#039;t seen any freebie CD-RW simulation sw, but I may be looking wrong.  The first step of course is to read, as that is more documented, and I think the major differences from CD&#039;s to HD&#039;s it that CD&#039;s typically have larger sector sizes, on reading although NeXT/SGI/Sun and probably Apple did this 512byte emulate  HD mode to load up CD&#039;s with a native RO filesystem instead of glorious ISO 9660.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-80050">Raijinzrael</a>.</p>
<p>test cases work the best.  Like doing x with y, and what it should look like.  The more I can do 100% in software the more likely it is.  I know it&#8217;s kind of funny but I never used or liked Mac&#8217;s from this era so I&#8217;m like the worst person for sourcing this stuff since I did my best to not use a mac.  I was a diehard MS-DOS / Unix guy.  A/UX was a fun detour but I used it as a UNIX machine, with the occasional office app but I mostly had terminals open.  I didn&#8217;t even use X11 on A/UX.</p>
<p>But yeah even what software levels to do what is great I don&#8217;t know what should go with what&#8230; something like a 68030 XMb of ram, this kind of ROM, what OS, this application to do what.  I haven&#8217;t seen any freebie CD-RW simulation sw, but I may be looking wrong.  The first step of course is to read, as that is more documented, and I think the major differences from CD&#8217;s to HD&#8217;s it that CD&#8217;s typically have larger sector sizes, on reading although NeXT/SGI/Sun and probably Apple did this 512byte emulate  HD mode to load up CD&#8217;s with a native RO filesystem instead of glorious ISO 9660.</p>
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		By: Raijinzrael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raijinzrael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-80004&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, Toast in OS7/8 is the only software that can image and burn correctly MacOS 9 (and minus) HFS and Hybrid Audio/HFS Data formated CD&#039;s.

Just take a tour to Macintosh garden or any Mac software preservation site. You will see how crippled and unaccurate are  Toast Titanium for OSX+ and Disk utility are for such tasks.

Is also the only way to make OS7/8 and 9 bootable CD images for emulators, even if you don&#039;t use any of the other functions of the software.

I&#039;ll find a way so you can test CD passthru functionality with CDs in software only, wait a little.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-80004">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>Well, Toast in OS7/8 is the only software that can image and burn correctly MacOS 9 (and minus) HFS and Hybrid Audio/HFS Data formated CD&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Just take a tour to Macintosh garden or any Mac software preservation site. You will see how crippled and unaccurate are  Toast Titanium for OSX+ and Disk utility are for such tasks.</p>
<p>Is also the only way to make OS7/8 and 9 bootable CD images for emulators, even if you don&#8217;t use any of the other functions of the software.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll find a way so you can test CD passthru functionality with CDs in software only, wait a little.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-79982&quot;&gt;Howard&lt;/a&gt;.

so out of curiosity what can adaptec toast on OS 7 do that toast titanium and friends cannot?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-79982">Howard</a>.</p>
<p>so out of curiosity what can adaptec toast on OS 7 do that toast titanium and friends cannot?</p>
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		By: Howard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Howard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Adaptec toast had the most widespread use.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Adaptec toast had the most widespread use.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 06:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-79937&quot;&gt;Howard&lt;/a&gt;.

What kind of CD&#039;s do you guys access?  I don&#039;t even have an optical drive on my main machines, just an old machine I picked up from a junk dealer.

So I guess I&#039;d need to know what application and function...
like jimbob&#039;s magic cd maker and cd burning

etc... I&#039;d have to have some way to test something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-79937">Howard</a>.</p>
<p>What kind of CD&#8217;s do you guys access?  I don&#8217;t even have an optical drive on my main machines, just an old machine I picked up from a junk dealer.</p>
<p>So I guess I&#8217;d need to know what application and function&#8230;<br />
like jimbob&#8217;s magic cd maker and cd burning</p>
<p>etc&#8230; I&#8217;d have to have some way to test something.</p>
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		By: Howard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Howard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 05:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, I second that! It would be fantastic to get rid of the dependency on cdenable.sys for CD access. And the possibility to implement this stuff in SheepShaver also is appealing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I second that! It would be fantastic to get rid of the dependency on cdenable.sys for CD access. And the possibility to implement this stuff in SheepShaver also is appealing.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 05:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-79893&quot;&gt;Raijinzrael&lt;/a&gt;.

I need to score a DDK to talk to scsi devices.. I&#039;m slowly working on it.  I&#039;ve been making previous&#039;s SCSI disk play nicer with Basilisk and crash less often.  I&#039;ve also got it set to identify as an Apple disk so you can at least use the disk tools out of OS 8.

I know two people are dying for MIDI support but once they can even say what application and how it all should tie together I haven&#039;t even started on that.  I&#039;m slowly looking at the CPU.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/10/14/so-i-started-to-look-at-the-scsi-passthru-on-basilisk/comment-page-1/#comment-79893">Raijinzrael</a>.</p>
<p>I need to score a DDK to talk to scsi devices.. I&#8217;m slowly working on it.  I&#8217;ve been making previous&#8217;s SCSI disk play nicer with Basilisk and crash less often.  I&#8217;ve also got it set to identify as an Apple disk so you can at least use the disk tools out of OS 8.</p>
<p>I know two people are dying for MIDI support but once they can even say what application and how it all should tie together I haven&#8217;t even started on that.  I&#8217;m slowly looking at the CPU.</p>
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