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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-171814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2016 01:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-171793&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;.

MS-DOS player is really only for command line stuff..  But it certainly does a great job!

I was running DJGPP 1.0 with it, and it ran fine too!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-171793">Peter</a>.</p>
<p>MS-DOS player is really only for command line stuff..  But it certainly does a great job!</p>
<p>I was running DJGPP 1.0 with it, and it ran fine too!</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-171793</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-171774&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;transforming&quot; tlink.exe with that worked, is now called without an error message, netkeen.exe was build.
Within DosBox, this netkeen.exe can be even played ;-)
But using MSDOS.EXE to start netkeen.exe always reports:
Started Up MM
Quit: MM_GetPtr: Out of memory!
But doesn&#039;t matter, most important for me: tlink.exe could be used from Win 7 x64 ... so thx for the info.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-171774">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;transforming&#8221; tlink.exe with that worked, is now called without an error message, netkeen.exe was build.<br />
Within DosBox, this netkeen.exe can be even played 😉<br />
But using MSDOS.EXE to start netkeen.exe always reports:<br />
Started Up MM<br />
Quit: MM_GetPtr: Out of memory!<br />
But doesn&#8217;t matter, most important for me: tlink.exe could be used from Win 7 x64 &#8230; so thx for the info.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2016 14:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-171773&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;.

I use MS-DOS player for my 16 bit tool needs

http://takeda-toshiya.my.coocan.jp/msdos/index.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-171773">Peter</a>.</p>
<p>I use MS-DOS player for my 16 bit tool needs</p>
<p><a href="http://takeda-toshiya.my.coocan.jp/msdos/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://takeda-toshiya.my.coocan.jp/msdos/index.html</a></p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-171773</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2016 13:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d the idea to compile netkeen for myself, downloaded the source (and binary) archive and then I got only problems.
Borland C++ 5.02 is a kind of &quot;hybrid&quot; (16 and 32bit) development tool.
That does not just mean it can produce 16 and 32 bit binaries. The command line tools itself are a mixture between 16 and 32 bit programs. Now imagine what happen if you start BCC 5.02 on a modern 64bit Windows OS.... the IDE itself loads, but TASM 5.0 (which is needed also to compile netkeen) is primarily a 16 bit tool and so has to be installed using DOS, not Windows.
Also, the tlink.exe application which is needed mandatory is a 16 bit app.
So even if you rename TASM32.EXE to TASM.EXE it stops when trying to use TLINK.EXE - on a modern PC it seems to be an impossible mission.
Have to try it with an older PC with Windows XP (32bit), may be even the DOS apps will run then. But it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; easy to &quot;make&quot; the netkeen binary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d the idea to compile netkeen for myself, downloaded the source (and binary) archive and then I got only problems.<br />
Borland C++ 5.02 is a kind of &#8220;hybrid&#8221; (16 and 32bit) development tool.<br />
That does not just mean it can produce 16 and 32 bit binaries. The command line tools itself are a mixture between 16 and 32 bit programs. Now imagine what happen if you start BCC 5.02 on a modern 64bit Windows OS&#8230;. the IDE itself loads, but TASM 5.0 (which is needed also to compile netkeen) is primarily a 16 bit tool and so has to be installed using DOS, not Windows.<br />
Also, the tlink.exe application which is needed mandatory is a 16 bit app.<br />
So even if you rename TASM32.EXE to TASM.EXE it stops when trying to use TLINK.EXE &#8211; on a modern PC it seems to be an impossible mission.<br />
Have to try it with an older PC with Windows XP (32bit), may be even the DOS apps will run then. But it&#8217;s <em>not</em> easy to &#8220;make&#8221; the netkeen binary.</p>
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		By: MS-DOS		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-151290</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MS-DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2015 22:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this mod is super fun I tested it with friends :) but only in DOSbox I wonder if it can run under pure DOS with pocket driver ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this mod is super fun I tested it with friends 🙂 but only in DOSbox I wonder if it can run under pure DOS with pocket driver ?</p>
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		By: 001		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-72535</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 02:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-72505&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

There are several versions of DosBox that support 3dfx:
http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=25606
Aaand a list of DOS 3dfx Games if you wanna checkt it out:
http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=14486]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-72505">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>There are several versions of DosBox that support 3dfx:<br />
<a href="http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=25606" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=25606</a><br />
Aaand a list of DOS 3dfx Games if you wanna checkt it out:<br />
<a href="http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=14486" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=14486</a></p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2014 19:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-72484&quot;&gt;001&lt;/a&gt;.

I tried to use it a long while back and I don&#039;t remember liking it.  I never had a 3dfx as they were oddly never sold retail...   But I think pcem emulates it now.  I just fear dosquakegl would be too niche,  even for me!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-72484">001</a>.</p>
<p>I tried to use it a long while back and I don&#8217;t remember liking it.  I never had a 3dfx as they were oddly never sold retail&#8230;   But I think pcem emulates it now.  I just fear dosquakegl would be too niche,  even for me!</p>
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		By: 001		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A little bit off topic here: NeoZeed, have you ever used allegro for DOS?
How about AllegroGL (w/3dfx suppot!) for DOS?

I was wondering if Netkeen could be easily ported to Allegro.
Or maybe having something like DosQuakeGL ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little bit off topic here: NeoZeed, have you ever used allegro for DOS?<br />
How about AllegroGL (w/3dfx suppot!) for DOS?</p>
<p>I was wondering if Netkeen could be easily ported to Allegro.<br />
Or maybe having something like DosQuakeGL 😉</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-71415&quot;&gt;calvin&lt;/a&gt;.

hmmmm... it has grown a bit out of control over the years..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2014/08/24/netkeen/comment-page-1/#comment-71415">calvin</a>.</p>
<p>hmmmm&#8230; it has grown a bit out of control over the years..</p>
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		By: calvin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[calvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[pppsssstttt, you should add a category browser to the sidebar - makes browsing the archives more fun!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pppsssstttt, you should add a category browser to the sidebar &#8211; makes browsing the archives more fun!</p>
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