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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44336</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44333&quot;&gt;tenox&lt;/a&gt;.

wish I could, but I can&#039;t find anything to emulate a SNA network :(  There was one test product but the company is bust as far as I can tell, but it did let you connect something like SNA server to it, and it would do some demo screens.  Sadly Hercules doesn&#039;t do SNA... Do you have any leads...???

I too was a translational bridge survivor of the 1990&#039;s... with MS SNA server, OS/2 comm server, and Novell&#039;s SNA server.  As much as the experience was cringetastic all around, MS SNA server was the easiest to get going by FAR.

I wonder if I still have a copy of SNA Server 2.11, the more stable version, EVER.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44333">tenox</a>.</p>
<p>wish I could, but I can&#8217;t find anything to emulate a SNA network 🙁  There was one test product but the company is bust as far as I can tell, but it did let you connect something like SNA server to it, and it would do some demo screens.  Sadly Hercules doesn&#8217;t do SNA&#8230; Do you have any leads&#8230;???</p>
<p>I too was a translational bridge survivor of the 1990&#8217;s&#8230; with MS SNA server, OS/2 comm server, and Novell&#8217;s SNA server.  As much as the experience was cringetastic all around, MS SNA server was the easiest to get going by FAR.</p>
<p>I wonder if I still have a copy of SNA Server 2.11, the more stable version, EVER.</p>
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		By: tenox		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tenox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s kids stuff. Try SNA :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s kids stuff. Try SNA 🙂</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44323</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 01:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44320&quot;&gt;Nick B.&lt;/a&gt;.

I wonder if Netware runs on 0.11 ....  I&#039;ve managed to get a working Mingw with GCC 3.4.5 (I love virtual machines!) so I&#039;ll have to see if I can find that or an ancient Pemu.  The PIX is just a PC, so I would (HOPE) it would be possible to run things like MS-DOS and friends...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44320">Nick B.</a>.</p>
<p>I wonder if Netware runs on 0.11 &#8230;.  I&#8217;ve managed to get a working Mingw with GCC 3.4.5 (I love virtual machines!) so I&#8217;ll have to see if I can find that or an ancient Pemu.  The PIX is just a PC, so I would (HOPE) it would be possible to run things like MS-DOS and friends&#8230;</p>
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		By: Nick B.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44319&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Somebody added the UDP code in Pemu (the pix emulator) which was based on 0.90. The GNS3 guys back-ported it as far as 0.11 AFAIK. Pemu requires gcc3 to compile though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44319">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>Somebody added the UDP code in Pemu (the pix emulator) which was based on 0.90. The GNS3 guys back-ported it as far as 0.11 AFAIK. Pemu requires gcc3 to compile though.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44298&quot;&gt;Nick B.&lt;/a&gt;.

Hmm pretty much like how Netware 3.12 &amp; 4.2 boot in Qemu but the disk access crashes them out.  0.90 runs them fine though.

Im torn between FPNW working good enough in 1.6.0, and slowly looking at the UDP code and adding it into 0.90.. but it seems like a lot of work for something that honestly nobody but me will use.

At the same time I guess if I do get it to work, I could add it to SIMH, and try DECNET, but I&#039;ve always been a BSD head, not a VMS guy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44298">Nick B.</a>.</p>
<p>Hmm pretty much like how Netware 3.12 &#038; 4.2 boot in Qemu but the disk access crashes them out.  0.90 runs them fine though.</p>
<p>Im torn between FPNW working good enough in 1.6.0, and slowly looking at the UDP code and adding it into 0.90.. but it seems like a lot of work for something that honestly nobody but me will use.</p>
<p>At the same time I guess if I do get it to work, I could add it to SIMH, and try DECNET, but I&#8217;ve always been a BSD head, not a VMS guy.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44315&quot;&gt;Chris M.&lt;/a&gt;.

I was going to add those when I found a good way of injecting them into dynamips...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/09/18/so-i-thought-id-go-through-something-incredibly-elaborate/comment-page-1/#comment-44315">Chris M.</a>.</p>
<p>I was going to add those when I found a good way of injecting them into dynamips&#8230;</p>
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		By: Chris M.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IPX/SPX? How about some Appletalk.... or even DECNet?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IPX/SPX? How about some Appletalk&#8230;. or even DECNet?</p>
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		By: Nick B.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great! They don&#039;t even cover IPX/SPX in the CCNA track these days although I have a few real routers that support it (and token ring!). That led my down the path of trying to get Netware 5.1 running in Qemu as it supports IPX and tcp/ip. No joy in Qemu but succeeded using Virtual PC 2007 and latterly VMware player.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! They don&#8217;t even cover IPX/SPX in the CCNA track these days although I have a few real routers that support it (and token ring!). That led my down the path of trying to get Netware 5.1 running in Qemu as it supports IPX and tcp/ip. No joy in Qemu but succeeded using Virtual PC 2007 and latterly VMware player.</p>
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