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		By: rjasmin		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-211635</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rjasmin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2019 11:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[power5 using slof seems to be a viable g5 qemu option- but it appears to not like the Leopard install disc. Maybe because devs think power arch requires LE(little endian) and not BE(big endian)??

qemu-system-ppc64 \
-M pseries \
-cpu POWER5
-m 1024 \
-device virtio-blk-pci,drive=drive0 -drive id=drive0,if=none,file=Leo.qcow2
-netdev user,id=net0 -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=net0 \
-cdrom leo.iso \
-sdl \
-vga std \
-display gtk \
-boot d \

and yes- you can qemu ppc64 the TALON- or near the TALONII specs. Use power9 cpu and alpine linux. Root login with no password.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>power5 using slof seems to be a viable g5 qemu option- but it appears to not like the Leopard install disc. Maybe because devs think power arch requires LE(little endian) and not BE(big endian)??</p>
<p>qemu-system-ppc64 \<br />
-M pseries \<br />
-cpu POWER5<br />
-m 1024 \<br />
-device virtio-blk-pci,drive=drive0 -drive id=drive0,if=none,file=Leo.qcow2<br />
-netdev user,id=net0 -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=net0 \<br />
-cdrom leo.iso \<br />
-sdl \<br />
-vga std \<br />
-display gtk \<br />
-boot d \</p>
<p>and yes- you can qemu ppc64 the TALON- or near the TALONII specs. Use power9 cpu and alpine linux. Root login with no password.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-198516</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-198511&quot;&gt;Chris M.&lt;/a&gt;.

You are right, my brain slipped, it came with OS 9.  What I really wanted was OS X Server 1.0/1.2 aka Darwin 0.1/0.3]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-198511">Chris M.</a>.</p>
<p>You are right, my brain slipped, it came with OS 9.  What I really wanted was OS X Server 1.0/1.2 aka Darwin 0.1/0.3</p>
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		By: Chris M.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2018 17:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-198482&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

TiBook G4s can run MacOS 9, the Aluminum Powerbook G4s are the first ones that were OS X only.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-198482">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>TiBook G4s can run MacOS 9, the Aluminum Powerbook G4s are the first ones that were OS X only.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-198482</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2018 01:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-198470&quot;&gt;César&lt;/a&gt;.

Well the problem is that I have a working 1st gen G5 now, that will run 10.2.7 which is pretty damned great.

Also I found a MacBook Ti for around $20 that was &#039;broken&#039; and I thought I could try to brush up my soldering sills on it, and I ended up accidentally fixing it.  So I now have a working G4 &amp; G5, although OS X only devices.  I&#039;ve also been slowly collecting enough parts to get a B&amp;W G3 up and running.  I plan on either writing about it later, or doing a video, maybe both.

The overall issue with Qemu is that it is SLOW.  Sheepshaver is WAY faster, but also far more prone to crashing.  If I had time/motiviation/money I&#039;d look at the dynamips G4 emulation that seems to be pretty good (it runs Cisco IOS just fine), and adapt that to run MacOS.  But I just don&#039;t see anyone really caring to be honest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-198470">César</a>.</p>
<p>Well the problem is that I have a working 1st gen G5 now, that will run 10.2.7 which is pretty damned great.</p>
<p>Also I found a MacBook Ti for around $20 that was &#8216;broken&#8217; and I thought I could try to brush up my soldering sills on it, and I ended up accidentally fixing it.  So I now have a working G4 &#038; G5, although OS X only devices.  I&#8217;ve also been slowly collecting enough parts to get a B&#038;W G3 up and running.  I plan on either writing about it later, or doing a video, maybe both.</p>
<p>The overall issue with Qemu is that it is SLOW.  Sheepshaver is WAY faster, but also far more prone to crashing.  If I had time/motiviation/money I&#8217;d look at the dynamips G4 emulation that seems to be pretty good (it runs Cisco IOS just fine), and adapt that to run MacOS.  But I just don&#8217;t see anyone really caring to be honest.</p>
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		By: César		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-198470</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[César]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-182412&quot;&gt;Sally&lt;/a&gt;.

How much did you use it? I mean, do you consider it qualifies as &quot;it&#039;s actually running&quot;, or do you experience too many issues to use it? BTW, is there any progress in emulating G5 PowerMacs, or is the mac99 still the only working platform -limited to G3 or G4 IIRC?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-182412">Sally</a>.</p>
<p>How much did you use it? I mean, do you consider it qualifies as &#8220;it&#8217;s actually running&#8221;, or do you experience too many issues to use it? BTW, is there any progress in emulating G5 PowerMacs, or is the mac99 still the only working platform -limited to G3 or G4 IIRC?</p>
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		By: Sally		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2017 04:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[qemu 2.9.0 working on macOS Sierra 10.12.4 host using guest Mac OS X Tiger/10.4.11 -and- OS 9.2.2 as Classic (also boots 9 from within the VM guest.)

./qemu-system-ppc \
	-drive file=Tiger.img,format=raw,media=disk -M mac99 -m 1024 -g 1024x768x32 -netdev user,id=network0 -device rtl8139,netdev=network0 -prom-env boot-args=-v -prom-env &quot;auto-boot?=true&quot; -boot c -drive file=TransferDisk.img,format=raw,media=disk]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>qemu 2.9.0 working on macOS Sierra 10.12.4 host using guest Mac OS X Tiger/10.4.11 -and- OS 9.2.2 as Classic (also boots 9 from within the VM guest.)</p>
<p>./qemu-system-ppc \<br />
	-drive file=Tiger.img,format=raw,media=disk -M mac99 -m 1024 -g 1024x768x32 -netdev user,id=network0 -device rtl8139,netdev=network0 -prom-env boot-args=-v -prom-env &#8220;auto-boot?=true&#8221; -boot c -drive file=TransferDisk.img,format=raw,media=disk</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-165013</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2016 01:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-165009&quot;&gt;César&lt;/a&gt;.

At this point in time, all we have is &lt;a href=&quot;http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/2014/11/06/sheepshaver-with-pcap-support/&quot;&gt;Sheepshaver&lt;/a&gt; which is an interesting piece of software on it&#039;s own. It basically relies on 68000 hooks in the PowerPC ROM to pull a Basilisk II, using it&#039;s paravitualized drivers for inputs, display, sound and networking.  What makes it tricky is that the jit emulator relies on having the PC&#039;s memory space match the PowerMac&#039;s so you need to be able to use the address 0x00000000 as memory.  Sadly Windows is letting you do that with 64bit exe&#039;s nor is the newer OS X versions.  It&#039;ll sort of run in 32bit mode, but it&#039;s all too common for it not to be able to directly map the memory.  Looking at the dynamips PowerPC jit, it may be possible with a LOT of work to get that working but I honestly just don&#039;t see that many people interested TBH.  And of course the dynamips authors have all but disappeared.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/2011/03/24/10-years-of-os-x-10-0/&quot;&gt;PearPC&lt;/a&gt; is another emulator for the early OS X versions.  It&#039;s cool and all but sadly the primary author was killed in an accident.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-165009">César</a>.</p>
<p>At this point in time, all we have is <a href="http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/2014/11/06/sheepshaver-with-pcap-support/">Sheepshaver</a> which is an interesting piece of software on it&#8217;s own. It basically relies on 68000 hooks in the PowerPC ROM to pull a Basilisk II, using it&#8217;s paravitualized drivers for inputs, display, sound and networking.  What makes it tricky is that the jit emulator relies on having the PC&#8217;s memory space match the PowerMac&#8217;s so you need to be able to use the address 0x00000000 as memory.  Sadly Windows is letting you do that with 64bit exe&#8217;s nor is the newer OS X versions.  It&#8217;ll sort of run in 32bit mode, but it&#8217;s all too common for it not to be able to directly map the memory.  Looking at the dynamips PowerPC jit, it may be possible with a LOT of work to get that working but I honestly just don&#8217;t see that many people interested TBH.  And of course the dynamips authors have all but disappeared.</p>
<p><a href="http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/2011/03/24/10-years-of-os-x-10-0/">PearPC</a> is another emulator for the early OS X versions.  It&#8217;s cool and all but sadly the primary author was killed in an accident.</p>
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		By: César		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-165009</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[César]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 21:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have there been any news about emulation of PPC Macs since this blog post was made? I&#039;m very happy that Previous is almost complete for NeXT machines, but the joy won&#039;t be complete until we have a working emulator for PPC Macs. The G3, G4, and G5 Macs are machines I&#039;d really continue using through emulation if it existed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have there been any news about emulation of PPC Macs since this blog post was made? I&#8217;m very happy that Previous is almost complete for NeXT machines, but the joy won&#8217;t be complete until we have a working emulator for PPC Macs. The G3, G4, and G5 Macs are machines I&#8217;d really continue using through emulation if it existed.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-130891</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-130875&quot;&gt;Bengo&lt;/a&gt;.

maybe? I dont&#039; know, I haven&#039;t tried.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/08/15/os-x-powerpc-on-qemu/comment-page-1/#comment-130875">Bengo</a>.</p>
<p>maybe? I dont&#8217; know, I haven&#8217;t tried.</p>
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		By: Bengo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bengo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 05:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Could it run  Solaris?   https://github.com/andreiw/polaris]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it run  Solaris?   <a href="https://github.com/andreiw/polaris" rel="nofollow ugc">https://github.com/andreiw/polaris</a></p>
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