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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 08:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37391&quot;&gt;atar&lt;/a&gt;.

My MinGW is 4.7.2 and it has all kinds of issues... I&#039;ll have to see how to downgrade to 4.4.7 ....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37391">atar</a>.</p>
<p>My MinGW is 4.7.2 and it has all kinds of issues&#8230; I&#8217;ll have to see how to downgrade to 4.4.7 &#8230;.</p>
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		By: atar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 14:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37375&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Fwiw I&#039;m using
gcc version 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3) (GCC)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37375">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>Fwiw I&#8217;m using<br />
gcc version 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3) (GCC)</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 07:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37325&quot;&gt;atar&lt;/a&gt;.

I need to get an ethernet cable to do more testing, just about everything is in flux @ home.. but in a good way.. 

Just got back from China with a hell of a cold (not the h7n9 or whatever) and just feel out of it...   With the 1.0++ versions of Qemu the SDL graphics scaling did slow things considerably, but not to the point of it taking MS-DOS a minute to boot.

I wonder if GCC 4.7 is more so to blame on MinGW, as it has issues with headers and libs trying to build a full glib2...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37325">atar</a>.</p>
<p>I need to get an ethernet cable to do more testing, just about everything is in flux @ home.. but in a good way.. </p>
<p>Just got back from China with a hell of a cold (not the h7n9 or whatever) and just feel out of it&#8230;   With the 1.0++ versions of Qemu the SDL graphics scaling did slow things considerably, but not to the point of it taking MS-DOS a minute to boot.</p>
<p>I wonder if GCC 4.7 is more so to blame on MinGW, as it has issues with headers and libs trying to build a full glib2&#8230;</p>
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		By: Roy		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37363</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 02:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37359&quot;&gt;atar&lt;/a&gt;.

coroutine is mandatory in QEMU now, you can&#039;t disable it.
and it is discussed in IRC channel too, but no progress afterwards.
http://roy.dnsd.me/qemu-2013-02-19.log.html (search RT&#124;AO lines and look the conversions after that line)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37359">atar</a>.</p>
<p>coroutine is mandatory in QEMU now, you can&#8217;t disable it.<br />
and it is discussed in IRC channel too, but no progress afterwards.<br />
<a href="http://roy.dnsd.me/qemu-2013-02-19.log.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://roy.dnsd.me/qemu-2013-02-19.log.html</a> (search RT|AO lines and look the conversions after that line)</p>
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		By: atar		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37359</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 21:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37333&quot;&gt;Roy&lt;/a&gt;.

Can you please try building it without coroutine option? Otherwise, can you try bisecting as Kevin suggested? It might be enough to find just one commit causing the regression, to get an idea what generally went wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37333">Roy</a>.</p>
<p>Can you please try building it without coroutine option? Otherwise, can you try bisecting as Kevin suggested? It might be enough to find just one commit causing the regression, to get an idea what generally went wrong.</p>
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		By: Roy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 23:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37326&quot;&gt;atar&lt;/a&gt;.

At least I asked in maillist
http://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg142944.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37326">atar</a>.</p>
<p>At least I asked in maillist<br />
<a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg142944.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg142944.html</a></p>
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		By: atar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37317&quot;&gt;ampharos&lt;/a&gt;.

Please, submit a bug. It shouldn&#039;t be like that. Yes, it lost something like 5% performance last year to make compilation with clang possible, but not more than that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37317">ampharos</a>.</p>
<p>Please, submit a bug. It shouldn&#8217;t be like that. Yes, it lost something like 5% performance last year to make compilation with clang possible, but not more than that.</p>
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		By: atar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37301&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Just tried booting Fedora 18/x86_64  in qemu-system-x86_64 on a Centos 6.4 host, and it boots within seconds. I&#039;m using -nographic though. Could it be that the graphics emulation makes it slow?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/04/29/somewhere-over-china-while-i-was-ignoring-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-37301">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>Just tried booting Fedora 18/x86_64  in qemu-system-x86_64 on a Centos 6.4 host, and it boots within seconds. I&#8217;m using -nographic though. Could it be that the graphics emulation makes it slow?</p>
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		By: atar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s strange. The sparc64 emulation became definitely faster than it was a year ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s strange. The sparc64 emulation became definitely faster than it was a year ago.</p>
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		By: ampharos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[QEMU is ridiculously slow here on Debian. It&#039;s reached XT-based performance. In the end I just started using VMWare for everything.

On a side note, had to abuse dd to get a BeOS ISO working. BeOS was noted for confusing any emulator. As it turns out, the ISO doesn&#039;t preserve any session information unlike like a cue sheet would, so I had rip out the BeFS partition and mount it on a second CD drive. I imagine it&#039;d work in QEMU, but the performance was complete shite, making it unusable. But it works in VMWare!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QEMU is ridiculously slow here on Debian. It&#8217;s reached XT-based performance. In the end I just started using VMWare for everything.</p>
<p>On a side note, had to abuse dd to get a BeOS ISO working. BeOS was noted for confusing any emulator. As it turns out, the ISO doesn&#8217;t preserve any session information unlike like a cue sheet would, so I had rip out the BeFS partition and mount it on a second CD drive. I imagine it&#8217;d work in QEMU, but the performance was complete shite, making it unusable. But it works in VMWare!</p>
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