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		By: Bas v.d. Wiel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bas v.d. Wiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As the author of the serial-to-amiga article you linked to: my laptop doesn&#039;t have a serial port either. I assembled a contraption from a USB-to-serial adapter, null-modem cable and a 9-to-25-pin converter. It works flawlessly but it looks like something straight from Dr. Who.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the author of the serial-to-amiga article you linked to: my laptop doesn&#8217;t have a serial port either. I assembled a contraption from a USB-to-serial adapter, null-modem cable and a 9-to-25-pin converter. It works flawlessly but it looks like something straight from Dr. Who.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/01/03/something-interesting-happened-on-the-way-to-verona/comment-page-1/#comment-31272</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/01/03/something-interesting-happened-on-the-way-to-verona/comment-page-1/#comment-31252&quot;&gt;Nick B.&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah... Once uppon a time I made my own VGA out with a DB25 that I had to take a hacksaw to...  Now even DB-25 serial ports are a rarity!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/01/03/something-interesting-happened-on-the-way-to-verona/comment-page-1/#comment-31252">Nick B.</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah&#8230; Once uppon a time I made my own VGA out with a DB25 that I had to take a hacksaw to&#8230;  Now even DB-25 serial ports are a rarity!</p>
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		By: Nick B.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 05:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh those elusive &lt;b&gt;23&lt;/b&gt;-way D-connectors for the serial and the video... I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever seen them anywhere except for the Amiga series.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh those elusive <b>23</b>-way D-connectors for the serial and the video&#8230; I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever seen them anywhere except for the Amiga series.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/01/03/something-interesting-happened-on-the-way-to-verona/comment-page-1/#comment-31064</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 17:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/01/03/something-interesting-happened-on-the-way-to-verona/comment-page-1/#comment-31037&quot;&gt;ampharos&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah the whole &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/haynie3drisc.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hombre&lt;/a&gt; thing is kind of interesting.. But ultimately if they had pulled it off in some fashion, it would be a stand alone CD-32 like device, from the sounds of it, more of a Dreamcast.. which worked so well for Sega.

And even if that all panned out, the whole Itanium thing would have crushed the whole effort.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/01/03/something-interesting-happened-on-the-way-to-verona/comment-page-1/#comment-31037">ampharos</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah the whole <a href="http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/haynie3drisc.html" rel="nofollow">hombre</a> thing is kind of interesting.. But ultimately if they had pulled it off in some fashion, it would be a stand alone CD-32 like device, from the sounds of it, more of a Dreamcast.. which worked so well for Sega.</p>
<p>And even if that all panned out, the whole Itanium thing would have crushed the whole effort.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/01/03/something-interesting-happened-on-the-way-to-verona/comment-page-1/#comment-31041</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 14:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/01/03/something-interesting-happened-on-the-way-to-verona/comment-page-1/#comment-31036&quot;&gt;ampharos&lt;/a&gt;.

Commodore was run more like a pump/dump stock scheme which ultimately brought it down.  Bad timing in their stock cycle + one frivolous patent lawsuit ended them.

They were doomed to eventual failure anyways, in this era of software patent racketeering.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2013/01/03/something-interesting-happened-on-the-way-to-verona/comment-page-1/#comment-31036">ampharos</a>.</p>
<p>Commodore was run more like a pump/dump stock scheme which ultimately brought it down.  Bad timing in their stock cycle + one frivolous patent lawsuit ended them.</p>
<p>They were doomed to eventual failure anyways, in this era of software patent racketeering.</p>
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		By: ampharos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ampharos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 13:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Although the attempts at Hombre were interesting - PA-RISC, maybe NT in my Amiga, typical advanced Amiga graphics? lolwut?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the attempts at Hombre were interesting &#8211; PA-RISC, maybe NT in my Amiga, typical advanced Amiga graphics? lolwut?</p>
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		By: ampharos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ampharos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 13:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The hilarious part is that the PPC stuff is overpriced and basically useless.

MUI is garbage - it also shows why people were lining up for Windows 95 and Macintoshes - hell, even OS/2 was better - no hunting for libraries, no hassle of them pretending they&#039;re the star of the show (MUI, all you needed was a control panel and library, not an entire folder) - but you can still get PCMCIA networking for them easily.

They might not have been as good as the Amiga, but the user experience was a lot better. Linux gave you a CLI that wasn&#039;t shit, Windows 95 gave you hardware and apps, OS/2 gave you whatever OS/2 did, and anyone could figure out how a Mac worked.

Sorry, just want to get that off my chest. Amigas are cool but very overrated. If I could take any hardware offered at the time, I&#039;d go for a 040 Mac or a really fast 486. Bettter UI, and more software even if they were inferior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hilarious part is that the PPC stuff is overpriced and basically useless.</p>
<p>MUI is garbage &#8211; it also shows why people were lining up for Windows 95 and Macintoshes &#8211; hell, even OS/2 was better &#8211; no hunting for libraries, no hassle of them pretending they&#8217;re the star of the show (MUI, all you needed was a control panel and library, not an entire folder) &#8211; but you can still get PCMCIA networking for them easily.</p>
<p>They might not have been as good as the Amiga, but the user experience was a lot better. Linux gave you a CLI that wasn&#8217;t shit, Windows 95 gave you hardware and apps, OS/2 gave you whatever OS/2 did, and anyone could figure out how a Mac worked.</p>
<p>Sorry, just want to get that off my chest. Amigas are cool but very overrated. If I could take any hardware offered at the time, I&#8217;d go for a 040 Mac or a really fast 486. Bettter UI, and more software even if they were inferior.</p>
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		By: Gabucino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabucino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 09:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Watch out for 37.300, it contains a bug which _will_ yield constant filesystem corruption on &quot;big&quot; CF cards (or HDDs). Better use 37.350, or rather what I did: a 3.1 kick... Then I put the 37.300 in my HD-less 500, because OS 2.x runs more utils than 1.x.

The A600 is the perfect machine to realize how A4000/PPC-centric were+are the Amiga users. Just try to use any program that uses the absolutely horrible MUI toolkit, like a &quot;simple&quot; IRC client: AmIRC... Since the PCMCIA slot will be in use by the ethernet adapter (therefore no +4Mb SRAM), AmIRC will &quot;quickly&quot; (takes 30 seconds even to start) evaporate all (with expansion: 2Mb) the memory, subsequently freezing the Amiga, all the while being horribly slow like Windows 95 on a 386...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch out for 37.300, it contains a bug which _will_ yield constant filesystem corruption on &#8220;big&#8221; CF cards (or HDDs). Better use 37.350, or rather what I did: a 3.1 kick&#8230; Then I put the 37.300 in my HD-less 500, because OS 2.x runs more utils than 1.x.</p>
<p>The A600 is the perfect machine to realize how A4000/PPC-centric were+are the Amiga users. Just try to use any program that uses the absolutely horrible MUI toolkit, like a &#8220;simple&#8221; IRC client: AmIRC&#8230; Since the PCMCIA slot will be in use by the ethernet adapter (therefore no +4Mb SRAM), AmIRC will &#8220;quickly&#8221; (takes 30 seconds even to start) evaporate all (with expansion: 2Mb) the memory, subsequently freezing the Amiga, all the while being horribly slow like Windows 95 on a 386&#8230;</p>
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