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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2020 05:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256118&quot;&gt;Fissuras&lt;/a&gt;.

I think this is the Japanese one that is ported from the FM-Towns...  Actually yeah the towns.h has credit to Keisuke Yoshida.

It very well may be an older version of &lt;a href=&quot;http://anikun.kutami.jp/towns-gcc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;TOWNS-gpp&lt;/a&gt;.

Japan had quite the movement of GCC on home machines, also the x68000 although their native tools were written in assembler.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256118">Fissuras</a>.</p>
<p>I think this is the Japanese one that is ported from the FM-Towns&#8230;  Actually yeah the towns.h has credit to Keisuke Yoshida.</p>
<p>It very well may be an older version of <a href="http://anikun.kutami.jp/towns-gcc/" rel="nofollow ugc">TOWNS-gpp</a>.</p>
<p>Japan had quite the movement of GCC on home machines, also the x68000 although their native tools were written in assembler.</p>
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		By: Fissuras		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fissuras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2020 12:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On a side note, there is an even older port of gcc to msdos. never heard of it before.
http://cd.textfiles.com/bbox4/progc/gccmsdos.arj
files are dated as of april, 1990]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a side note, there is an even older port of gcc to msdos. never heard of it before.<br />
<a href="http://cd.textfiles.com/bbox4/progc/gccmsdos.arj" rel="nofollow ugc">http://cd.textfiles.com/bbox4/progc/gccmsdos.arj</a><br />
files are dated as of april, 1990</p>
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		By: Fissuras		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fissuras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2020 11:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256112&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, I&#039;ve said that on the post bellow. Gpp5 (1.05) and Gpp3(1.03) were available. I was hoping to rebuild djgpp using turbo c ...
Anyway, those are the oldest files we can get. Too bad there is no mirror from that era, no ftp.archive.org.
I am now looking for older fmsx source code for unix, versions 0.1 to 1.0. they are out there somewhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256112">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve said that on the post bellow. Gpp5 (1.05) and Gpp3(1.03) were available. I was hoping to rebuild djgpp using turbo c &#8230;<br />
Anyway, those are the oldest files we can get. Too bad there is no mirror from that era, no <a href="http://ftp.archive.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ftp.archive.org</a>.<br />
I am now looking for older fmsx source code for unix, versions 0.1 to 1.0. they are out there somewhere.</p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2020 11:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256115&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

Oops, I just realized that some of the posts below were links to this or other related information!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256115">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>Oops, I just realized that some of the posts below were links to this or other related information!</p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2020 11:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-15236&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Not necessarily, &quot;Packed file is corrupt&quot; also happens if you have *too much* RAM available!  As described in https://jeffpar.github.io/kbarchive/kb/072/Q72360/, LOADFIX addresses this by forcing the application to not load in the first 64K of RAM.  Other workarounds suggested there are just running another copy of COMMAND.COM.  DOSBox is prone to triggering this since it has a lot of RAM available by default, but at least in recent versions it does have LOADFIX.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-15236">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>Not necessarily, &#8220;Packed file is corrupt&#8221; also happens if you have *too much* RAM available!  As described in <a href="https://jeffpar.github.io/kbarchive/kb/072/Q72360/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://jeffpar.github.io/kbarchive/kb/072/Q72360/</a>, LOADFIX addresses this by forcing the application to not load in the first 64K of RAM.  Other workarounds suggested there are just running another copy of COMMAND.COM.  DOSBox is prone to triggering this since it has a lot of RAM available by default, but at least in recent versions it does have LOADFIX.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2020 05:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256106&quot;&gt;Fissuras&lt;/a&gt;.

volume 16 of that site you found has something called GPP5 which should be the next release of DJGPP.

There is *SOME* source in there.

http://193.166.3.2/pub/archive/comp.binaries.ibm.pc/volume16/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256106">Fissuras</a>.</p>
<p>volume 16 of that site you found has something called GPP5 which should be the next release of DJGPP.</p>
<p>There is *SOME* source in there.</p>
<p><a href="http://193.166.3.2/pub/archive/comp.binaries.ibm.pc/volume16/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://193.166.3.2/pub/archive/comp.binaries.ibm.pc/volume16/</a></p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256109</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2020 03:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256106&quot;&gt;Fissuras&lt;/a&gt;.

In the binary post it mentions that there is no source for this release.  Maybe for the following release.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256106">Fissuras</a>.</p>
<p>In the binary post it mentions that there is no source for this release.  Maybe for the following release.</p>
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		By: Fissuras		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fissuras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2020 00:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256100&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

dj1inc unpacked fine. got part5 from my previous link, uudecoded dj1inc.zoo, unpacked (unzooed?), got a &quot;INC.TAR&quot; file, untarred...  and all header files came out without a single warning.

Now, what about the sources?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256100">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>dj1inc unpacked fine. got part5 from my previous link, uudecoded dj1inc.zoo, unpacked (unzooed?), got a &#8220;INC.TAR&#8221; file, untarred&#8230;  and all header files came out without a single warning.</p>
<p>Now, what about the sources?</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2020 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256077&quot;&gt;Fissuras&lt;/a&gt;.

So it turns out this release is in UTZOO, and I&#039;ve been sitting on it for years.  Ironically I built that altavista personal search proxy thing to look for stuff, but never searched for djgpp.  The includes zoo is intact!

The binary announcement is here:
https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b202/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3506.txt

Docs announcement:
https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b203/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3562.txt

Lib announcement:
https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b204/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3569.txt

And includes:
https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b203/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3564.txt

Although it appears the zoo &lt;a href=&quot;https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b205/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/d/12689.txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;has always been corrupted&lt;/a&gt;.

All I had to do was use the gateway:
https://altavista.superglobalmegacorp.com/altavista?pg=q&amp;what=0&amp;q=dj1bin.zoo&amp;search.x=0&amp;search.y=0

And here is the announcement, mentioning no source:

&lt;code&gt;Originally-from: grape.ecs.clarkson.edu
Submitted-by: dj@ctron.com
Archive-name: dj1bin/part01


  This is the first of many parts of gcc and g++ for DOS running on 386
and 486 machines. It doesn&#039;t run on any of the smaller machines, nor
will it, since the hardware is just not there for 32 bit arithmetic. It
will run integer programs without a 387, but will not even compile a
program which uses float (including constants). I&#039;ve been trying it and
while it&#039;s useful, it is not totally bug free yet, so there will
probably be an update in a month or so based on user&#039;s reports.

  There will be postings of binaries, the include files, and the
libraries. I am confident enough in an update soon that I&#039;m holding off
on the sources for now, they&#039;ll come last if there&#039;s no update.

  This software is usefully robust, but certainly not without some minor
flaws in either documentation or the implementation.

  Please post comments or mail them to the submitter, not to me. I&#039;m just
a user like you.&lt;/code&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256077">Fissuras</a>.</p>
<p>So it turns out this release is in UTZOO, and I&#8217;ve been sitting on it for years.  Ironically I built that altavista personal search proxy thing to look for stuff, but never searched for djgpp.  The includes zoo is intact!</p>
<p>The binary announcement is here:<br />
<a href="https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b202/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3506.txt" rel="nofollow ugc">https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b202/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3506.txt</a></p>
<p>Docs announcement:<br />
<a href="https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b203/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3562.txt" rel="nofollow ugc">https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b203/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3562.txt</a></p>
<p>Lib announcement:<br />
<a href="https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b204/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3569.txt" rel="nofollow ugc">https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b204/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3569.txt</a></p>
<p>And includes:<br />
<a href="https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b203/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3564.txt" rel="nofollow ugc">https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b203/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3564.txt</a></p>
<p>Although it appears the zoo <a href="https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b205/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/d/12689.txt" rel="nofollow ugc">has always been corrupted</a>.</p>
<p>All I had to do was use the gateway:<br />
<a href="https://altavista.superglobalmegacorp.com/altavista?pg=q&#038;what=0&#038;q=dj1bin.zoo&#038;search.x=0&#038;search.y=0" rel="nofollow ugc">https://altavista.superglobalmegacorp.com/altavista?pg=q&#038;what=0&#038;q=dj1bin.zoo&#038;search.x=0&#038;search.y=0</a></p>
<p>And here is the announcement, mentioning no source:</p>
<p><code>Originally-from: grape.ecs.clarkson.edu<br />
Submitted-by: dj@ctron.com<br />
Archive-name: dj1bin/part01</p>
<p>  This is the first of many parts of gcc and g++ for DOS running on 386<br />
and 486 machines. It doesn't run on any of the smaller machines, nor<br />
will it, since the hardware is just not there for 32 bit arithmetic. It<br />
will run integer programs without a 387, but will not even compile a<br />
program which uses float (including constants). I've been trying it and<br />
while it's useful, it is not totally bug free yet, so there will<br />
probably be an update in a month or so based on user's reports.</p>
<p>  There will be postings of binaries, the include files, and the<br />
libraries. I am confident enough in an update soon that I'm holding off<br />
on the sources for now, they'll come last if there's no update.</p>
<p>  This software is usefully robust, but certainly not without some minor<br />
flaws in either documentation or the implementation.</p>
<p>  Please post comments or mail them to the submitter, not to me. I'm just<br />
a user like you.</code></p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2020 17:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256077&quot;&gt;Fissuras&lt;/a&gt;.

Kind of funny DJGPP is old enough to be at the tail end of UTZOO

https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b202/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3506.txt]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/06/30/djgpp-1-00-saved-thanks-to-shovelware-cd-textfiles-com/comment-page-1/#comment-256077">Fissuras</a>.</p>
<p>Kind of funny DJGPP is old enough to be at the tail end of UTZOO</p>
<p><a href="https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b202/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3506.txt" rel="nofollow ugc">https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b202/comp/binaries/ibm/pc/3506.txt</a></p>
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