Comments on: Upgrading through Windows NT; Windows NT 3.51

By: neozeed

neozeed — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 01:38:34 +0000

I should add that I’ve installed NT 3.51 on Qemu 0.15.1 .. the ‘trick’ is to hit f5/f6 at the NTDETECT portion and load the ‘normal’ PC HAL. I’ve installed all the way to 2000 this way, but once more again it crashes when upgrading to XP.

By: Tony

Tony — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 02:43:11 +0000

In reply to neozeed. Really? I never knew there was huge change on ethernet part (besides the default card moved from NE2000 to RTL8139). One thing I don't understand was video became unusable for Win 3.x after QEMU 0.12, although in 0.12.3 it was listed as a fix...

By: neozeed

neozeed — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:18:54 +0000

In reply to Raijinzrael.

The guy doing the RS/6000 emulation, Hervé is the same that made the MIPS runnable for NT so I’m sure its on his list after AIX…

Or one can hope.

By: Raijinzrael

Raijinzrael — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 05:23:37 +0000

In reply to neozeed.

Lately I’ve seen much work in the QEMU PReP emulation, the same one that PPC WinNT requires… Although their efforts are aimed to run unmodified old AIX versions on QEMU, the PReP emulation is targeted to an RS6000 40p class machine, to firmware level… so maybe their work can be used with little modifications to run the ARC firmware required to run Windows NT in a foreseeable future.

By: neozeed

neozeed — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 20:52:34 +0000

In reply to Tony. I mean to touch on this, I used 0.90 to do the upgrade, once its done 0.15.0 & 1.0.1 run it fine, although the networking is all screwed up in 1.xx ... :(

By: Tony

Tony — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 20:28:05 +0000

Just wondering, what architecture do you use to run NT 3.51? I’ve tried using both QEMU 0.9.1 and 1.0.1 w/ i386 and they both stuck at BSOD after I inserted the second boot floppy. I have tried changing ram from 8M to 32M and cpu from 486 to pentium but non works.

By: neozeed

neozeed — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:31:27 +0000

In reply to Michal Necasek.

I used to run IIS on mine, and hosted it on the internet… It was all the joy of IIS, but without any of the x86 exploits…

I was trying to talk corporate into it, I think the ASP package made it to the PowerPC shortly before it was killed… Now as for the Alpha, I know people ran that for SQL for sure… I’m not sure about IIS.

By: Michal Necasek

Michal Necasek — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:27:33 +0000

In reply to neozeed. I saw NT (4.0) running on IBM Power Series 440/830 as well as on a RS/6000 (43p). It never got past the stage of being a curiosity, as in comparison the Alpha version of NT had a vast library of apps available.

By: neozeed

neozeed — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:18:27 +0000

In reply to Gert-Jan C. Lokhorst. I've run the PowerPC version of NT (3.51 and 4.0) on a real PowerPC, and IBM RS/6000 40p to be exact. Sadly the Qemu emulation isn't there yet to run all the way through the BIOS let alone booting NT...

By: Gert-Jan C. Lokhorst

Gert-Jan C. Lokhorst — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:40:16 +0000

You write: Windows NT 3.51 was significant in adding support for the PowerPC processor from IBM. I wonder: have you succeeded in running the PowerPC port of Windows NT 3.51 under qemu-system-ppc.exe?