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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-java/comment-page-1/#comment-38455</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 10:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-java/comment-page-1/#comment-38438&quot;&gt;Yuhong Bao&lt;/a&gt;.

what a screw up that was, not only was it an all around &#039;y2k&#039; style race for nothing, but it caused a net increase in electrical consumption.

I wish we could just dump DST once and for all, and just force the golfers to get up early on their own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-java/comment-page-1/#comment-38438">Yuhong Bao</a>.</p>
<p>what a screw up that was, not only was it an all around &#8216;y2k&#8217; style race for nothing, but it caused a net increase in electrical consumption.</p>
<p>I wish we could just dump DST once and for all, and just force the golfers to get up early on their own.</p>
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		By: Yuhong Bao		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-java/comment-page-1/#comment-38438</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yuhong Bao]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 22:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trivia: the last MSJVM updates was actually the DST updates released under the infamouse $4k/year EHS DST program.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trivia: the last MSJVM updates was actually the DST updates released under the infamouse $4k/year EHS DST program.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 03:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-java/comment-page-1/#comment-9886&quot;&gt;David Moisan&lt;/a&gt;.

I still have J++ 1.1 from Visual Studio 97, along with PowerStation FORTRAN 4... In the box! But at the time, I did buy J++ as well, I still have the 1.1 disc, although I seem to have lost the box and all that... I think I was just blown away that it was so GREAT for creating GUI applications, but saddened that they only ran on the MS VM..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-java/comment-page-1/#comment-9886">David Moisan</a>.</p>
<p>I still have J++ 1.1 from Visual Studio 97, along with PowerStation FORTRAN 4&#8230; In the box! But at the time, I did buy J++ as well, I still have the 1.1 disc, although I seem to have lost the box and all that&#8230; I think I was just blown away that it was so GREAT for creating GUI applications, but saddened that they only ran on the MS VM..</p>
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		By: David Moisan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll go everyone one better:

I bought J++.

I wangled a discount through my college bookstore (as a greedy alumni).  I was learning Java at the time and I liked Microsoft&#039;s JVM--it was much better on Windows than the Sun JVM (this was in part a source of their well-known legal problems.)

I liked the IDE.

&lt;strong&gt;My&lt;/strong&gt; lesson in this is, when the landlord wants me to get rid of my old stuff, including my old copy of J++, that I at least spend the few minutes to image the CD&#039;s and take photos of the collateral before tossing it.

I&#039;m not sure how the &quot;publisher&#039;s version&quot; is different from the paid version (which may have been $100 or so discounted to $50.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll go everyone one better:</p>
<p>I bought J++.</p>
<p>I wangled a discount through my college bookstore (as a greedy alumni).  I was learning Java at the time and I liked Microsoft&#8217;s JVM&#8211;it was much better on Windows than the Sun JVM (this was in part a source of their well-known legal problems.)</p>
<p>I liked the IDE.</p>
<p><strong>My</strong> lesson in this is, when the landlord wants me to get rid of my old stuff, including my old copy of J++, that I at least spend the few minutes to image the CD&#8217;s and take photos of the collateral before tossing it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how the &#8220;publisher&#8217;s version&#8221; is different from the paid version (which may have been $100 or so discounted to $50.)</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 17:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I used to have MSDN 1997 the whole year on CDs.  I got desperate for cash to fix my car years ago and sold it for a measly $100.  

That&#039;s been my lesson to never sell shit ever again when I&#039;m desperate for some cash.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have MSDN 1997 the whole year on CDs.  I got desperate for cash to fix my car years ago and sold it for a measly $100.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s been my lesson to never sell shit ever again when I&#8217;m desperate for some cash.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 04:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-java/comment-page-1/#comment-9482&quot;&gt;Frank&lt;/a&gt;.

this thing got over 1000 views... I think younger kids were thinking that Microsoft was going to enter the java foray, now knowing that Microsoft was there at the dawn with an implementation in 1997.

Now I just wish I saved those 1.0 MSDN/express edition things that were ~50MB, damn they were cool!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-java/comment-page-1/#comment-9482">Frank</a>.</p>
<p>this thing got over 1000 views&#8230; I think younger kids were thinking that Microsoft was going to enter the java foray, now knowing that Microsoft was there at the dawn with an implementation in 1997.</p>
<p>Now I just wish I saved those 1.0 MSDN/express edition things that were ~50MB, damn they were cool!</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 23:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Haha, so badass.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, so badass.</p>
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