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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6199</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6195&quot;&gt;Michal Necasek&lt;/a&gt;.

thats exactly what happens, OS/2 boots and recovers 5MB worth of junk EA&#039;s I delete them, then restore a real OS/2 on OS/2 backup, and it works 7/8 times...

It&#039;d be easier to boot from floppy but it&#039;s a major pita when you can&#039;t.

Oh that reminds me, ages ago there was also HD emulation as part of the CD-ROM boot.... I&#039;ll have to see if that is still possible.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6195">Michal Necasek</a>.</p>
<p>thats exactly what happens, OS/2 boots and recovers 5MB worth of junk EA&#8217;s I delete them, then restore a real OS/2 on OS/2 backup, and it works 7/8 times&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;d be easier to boot from floppy but it&#8217;s a major pita when you can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Oh that reminds me, ages ago there was also HD emulation as part of the CD-ROM boot&#8230;. I&#8217;ll have to see if that is still possible&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Michal Necasek		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6196</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michal Necasek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6195&quot;&gt;Michal Necasek&lt;/a&gt;.

And FYI, Drive Image usually worked pretty well for OS/2.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6195">Michal Necasek</a>.</p>
<p>And FYI, Drive Image usually worked pretty well for OS/2.</p>
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		By: Michal Necasek		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6195</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michal Necasek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The INT13 driver is only intended for hard disks, not floppies. So that won&#039;t do any good. The only really was one floppy hardware interface, unlike the situation with hard disks, so IBM didn&#039;t expect they&#039;d ever need to use the BIOS to access floppies.

MS-DOS won&#039;t be able to restore EAs, probably doing all kinds of bad things to the desktop. But you may be able to boot OS/2 into command line and then re-restore the backup with EAs or something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The INT13 driver is only intended for hard disks, not floppies. So that won&#8217;t do any good. The only really was one floppy hardware interface, unlike the situation with hard disks, so IBM didn&#8217;t expect they&#8217;d ever need to use the BIOS to access floppies.</p>
<p>MS-DOS won&#8217;t be able to restore EAs, probably doing all kinds of bad things to the desktop. But you may be able to boot OS/2 into command line and then re-restore the backup with EAs or something.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6191</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6190&quot;&gt;Michal Necasek&lt;/a&gt;.

I had hoped the int13 driver could bypass that, but I guess its too smart for its own good....

So instead I&#039;m resorting to using MS-DOS to restore a partial OS/2 install that used CMD.exe as a shell, dual boot into that, then restore my OS/2 install and reboot into that... 

My Netware 4.11 on OS/2 thing went south real quick.. so I may just install TCP/IP and use it for quake or shove it into the closet and forget about it, I dont know yet....  A citrix multiuser version of OS/2 would be cool, but the odds of scoring that seem pretty slim, but then again that is what I thought about the October 1991 Windows NT pre-release..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6190">Michal Necasek</a>.</p>
<p>I had hoped the int13 driver could bypass that, but I guess its too smart for its own good&#8230;.</p>
<p>So instead I&#8217;m resorting to using MS-DOS to restore a partial OS/2 install that used CMD.exe as a shell, dual boot into that, then restore my OS/2 install and reboot into that&#8230; </p>
<p>My Netware 4.11 on OS/2 thing went south real quick.. so I may just install TCP/IP and use it for quake or shove it into the closet and forget about it, I dont know yet&#8230;.  A citrix multiuser version of OS/2 would be cool, but the odds of scoring that seem pretty slim, but then again that is what I thought about the October 1991 Windows NT pre-release..</p>
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		By: Michal Necasek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michal Necasek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think a bootable CD with OS/2 2.x floppy images has any chance of working. Once the kernel is initialized and a few drivers are loaded (all using the BIOS), OS/2 switches to the native floppy driver. If there&#039;s no real floppy drive, the boot will fail. The message will be something about missing COUNTRY.SYS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think a bootable CD with OS/2 2.x floppy images has any chance of working. Once the kernel is initialized and a few drivers are loaded (all using the BIOS), OS/2 switches to the native floppy driver. If there&#8217;s no real floppy drive, the boot will fail. The message will be something about missing COUNTRY.SYS.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6076</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6074&quot;&gt;dgunix&lt;/a&gt;.

I used virtual pc &amp; qemu to test what I was going to do would work in the first place... but sometimes you need real iron.. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6074">dgunix</a>.</p>
<p>I used virtual pc &#038; qemu to test what I was going to do would work in the first place&#8230; but sometimes you need real iron.. 🙂</p>
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		By: dgunix		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dgunix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6074&quot;&gt;dgunix&lt;/a&gt;.

And.. I&#039;ve pasted this link, but for some reason it didn&#039;t take:
http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/?p=529]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2012/01/11/os2-on-a-dell-dimension-4100-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-6074">dgunix</a>.</p>
<p>And.. I&#8217;ve pasted this link, but for some reason it didn&#8217;t take:<br />
<a href="http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/?p=529" rel="nofollow ugc">http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/?p=529</a></p>
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		By: dgunix		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dgunix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just virtualize it all, you know you love it ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just virtualize it all, you know you love it </p>
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