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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 04:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/26/os2-4-0-the-final-frontier/comment-page-1/#comment-27176&quot;&gt;Peter Dassow&lt;/a&gt;.

I may check it out, although after warp 4, I (and the world to most extent) lost interest in OS/2 ... I didn&#039;t like where it was going, and fundamental things felt like they were never going to improve (3d, smp .. networking that wasn&#039;t from 1988) ..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/26/os2-4-0-the-final-frontier/comment-page-1/#comment-27176">Peter Dassow</a>.</p>
<p>I may check it out, although after warp 4, I (and the world to most extent) lost interest in OS/2 &#8230; I didn&#8217;t like where it was going, and fundamental things felt like they were never going to improve (3d, smp .. networking that wasn&#8217;t from 1988) ..</p>
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		By: Peter Dassow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Dassow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And btw... there is a review of that Demo CD, too.
http://toastytech.com/guis/ecsd.html
On page 3 of that review, the author wrote:
&quot;eComStation is compatible with older OS/2 apps both 16-bit (from OS/2 1.x) and 32 bit.
The full version can also run REXX, Java, DOS, Windows 3.x, and some Win32s programs. &quot;

So it means there is still Win32s Support ?!?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And btw&#8230; there is a review of that Demo CD, too.<br />
<a href="http://toastytech.com/guis/ecsd.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://toastytech.com/guis/ecsd.html</a><br />
On page 3 of that review, the author wrote:<br />
&#8220;eComStation is compatible with older OS/2 apps both 16-bit (from OS/2 1.x) and 32 bit.<br />
The full version can also run REXX, Java, DOS, Windows 3.x, and some Win32s programs. &#8221;</p>
<p>So it means there is still Win32s Support ?!?</p>
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		By: Peter Dassow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Dassow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t you download eComStation Demo CD ?
See http://www.ecomstation.com/democd/ ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you download eComStation Demo CD ?<br />
See <a href="http://www.ecomstation.com/democd/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ecomstation.com/democd/</a> &#8230;</p>
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		By: bamdad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bamdad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 10:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[when i read &#039;hello old friend, it’s time to go to the end..&#039; i honestly almost cried.

i had high hopes for os/2 back then, and was really really sad to see it go. although the big blue did an insanely crappy job marketing and selling it, it was a great alternative to windows (especially the non-nt line), with much better dos integration etc.

are you planning on upgrading this vm to ecomstation perchance? : )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when i read &#8216;hello old friend, it’s time to go to the end..&#8217; i honestly almost cried.</p>
<p>i had high hopes for os/2 back then, and was really really sad to see it go. although the big blue did an insanely crappy job marketing and selling it, it was a great alternative to windows (especially the non-nt line), with much better dos integration etc.</p>
<p>are you planning on upgrading this vm to ecomstation perchance? : )</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 10:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do have to say that of all the OS/2 people I knew I was the only one back then to buy OS/2 4.0 ... It was a much hyped release but it came far too little too late.  And I have to admit, that I wound up buying a dual processor machine shortly thereafter to run Windows NT 4.0 at home.

I think I may have run OS/2 4.0 for a month.  Probably less.  The &#039;big&#039; issues were simply that there were no real native applications for OS/2, and the world was finally moving away from Win16, and even Win32s wasn&#039;t a solution anymore.  Not to mention Linux was playing catch-up in terms of Wine/DosEMU and the living hell that is X11... NT 4.0 &amp; 95 really changed everything there.

As for ecom ... I really don&#039;t know, other than I&#039;m not rushing to spend the needed $150-250 on something that I&#039;m honestly not going to use.  Not to mention looking at all of this, OS/2 2.0 and 2.1 really were perfectly fine for my use... And hell my recent copy of OS/2 2.0 cost me $5.  Although I think I&#039;ve owned it at least 5x now... lol I hate losing disks, but this time I&#039;ve emailed myself a copy of them so that I hopefully don&#039;t lose them!!!!

And in a way since OS/2 4.0 was the final end user sold release this is the end of that road.  And it&#039;s just so insane how badly OS/2 4.0 broke the upgrade chain.  I really feel that the last release in the &#039;spirit&#039; of OS/2 really is 3.  I don&#039;t know if anyone reviewed it came to anywhere near the same conclusion as I did for 4.0 but I really really don&#039;t like it..!!  Esp. now that I do have native applications.

While I do have fond memories of OS/2 it&#039;s just that.  In the past memories.  Even with its Netscape (if you can find it, and get it to run) it&#039;s just terrible.  I recall it crashing like crazy back then, but now it&#039;s over the top unstable with the JavaScript heavy world we live in.

Probably the &#039;best&#039; feature of OS/2 4.0 is that the VirtualPC extensions will run without any trouble allowing the shared folder support.  Other than that really it&#039;s a bust.  Epically if you have IBM&#039;s full TCP/IP pack for any prior release of OS/2.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do have to say that of all the OS/2 people I knew I was the only one back then to buy OS/2 4.0 &#8230; It was a much hyped release but it came far too little too late.  And I have to admit, that I wound up buying a dual processor machine shortly thereafter to run Windows NT 4.0 at home.</p>
<p>I think I may have run OS/2 4.0 for a month.  Probably less.  The &#8216;big&#8217; issues were simply that there were no real native applications for OS/2, and the world was finally moving away from Win16, and even Win32s wasn&#8217;t a solution anymore.  Not to mention Linux was playing catch-up in terms of Wine/DosEMU and the living hell that is X11&#8230; NT 4.0 &#038; 95 really changed everything there.</p>
<p>As for ecom &#8230; I really don&#8217;t know, other than I&#8217;m not rushing to spend the needed $150-250 on something that I&#8217;m honestly not going to use.  Not to mention looking at all of this, OS/2 2.0 and 2.1 really were perfectly fine for my use&#8230; And hell my recent copy of OS/2 2.0 cost me $5.  Although I think I&#8217;ve owned it at least 5x now&#8230; lol I hate losing disks, but this time I&#8217;ve emailed myself a copy of them so that I hopefully don&#8217;t lose them!!!!</p>
<p>And in a way since OS/2 4.0 was the final end user sold release this is the end of that road.  And it&#8217;s just so insane how badly OS/2 4.0 broke the upgrade chain.  I really feel that the last release in the &#8216;spirit&#8217; of OS/2 really is 3.  I don&#8217;t know if anyone reviewed it came to anywhere near the same conclusion as I did for 4.0 but I really really don&#8217;t like it..!!  Esp. now that I do have native applications.</p>
<p>While I do have fond memories of OS/2 it&#8217;s just that.  In the past memories.  Even with its Netscape (if you can find it, and get it to run) it&#8217;s just terrible.  I recall it crashing like crazy back then, but now it&#8217;s over the top unstable with the JavaScript heavy world we live in.</p>
<p>Probably the &#8216;best&#8217; feature of OS/2 4.0 is that the VirtualPC extensions will run without any trouble allowing the shared folder support.  Other than that really it&#8217;s a bust.  Epically if you have IBM&#8217;s full TCP/IP pack for any prior release of OS/2.</p>
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