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		By: TooMeeK		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-10879</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TooMeeK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve reached 2GB/s inside VM running on SSD drive with cache=&quot;writeback&quot; option since it&#039;s just buffering..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve reached 2GB/s inside VM running on SSD drive with cache=&#8221;writeback&#8221; option since it&#8217;s just buffering..</p>
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		By: PlezzeR		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1156</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PlezzeR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 13:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1148&quot;&gt;PlezzeR&lt;/a&gt;.

Previous testing was on Windows 7 64-bit with Service Pack 1.
I spent testing on Windows XP SP3 32-bit. The results were different from the results on Windows 7.
Results Qemu 0.14.1 and 0.15.0 turned out the same.
 Columns – parameters of cache.
 Rows – virtual hard disk formats.
 Host OS – Windows XP SP3 32-bit
 Qemu 0.14.1 &#038; 0.15.0 =&#062;
 &#124;———&#124;writethrough&#124;writeback&#124;unsafe&#124;none&#124;
 ————————————————
 &#124; raw &#124; fast &#124; fast &#124; fast &#124; fast&#124;
 &#124; qcow &#124; fast &#124; slow &#124; fast &#124; slow&#124;
 &#124; qcow2 &#124; medium* &#124; fast &#124; fast &#124; fast&#124;
 &#124; vdi &#124; fast &#124; fast &#124; fast &#124; fast&#124;
 ————————————————
* - There was a significant slowdown, but still the speed was high enough (about 3 - 5 seconds).
Since &quot;writethrough&quot; option is the default, it becomes clear why the write speed to a virtual hard drive was high on Windows XP. (maybe it becomes clear)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1148">PlezzeR</a>.</p>
<p>Previous testing was on Windows 7 64-bit with Service Pack 1.<br />
I spent testing on Windows XP SP3 32-bit. The results were different from the results on Windows 7.<br />
Results Qemu 0.14.1 and 0.15.0 turned out the same.<br />
 Columns – parameters of cache.<br />
 Rows – virtual hard disk formats.<br />
 Host OS – Windows XP SP3 32-bit<br />
 Qemu 0.14.1 &amp; 0.15.0 =&gt;<br />
 |———|writethrough|writeback|unsafe|none|<br />
 ————————————————<br />
 | raw | fast | fast | fast | fast|<br />
 | qcow | fast | slow | fast | slow|<br />
 | qcow2 | medium* | fast | fast | fast|<br />
 | vdi | fast | fast | fast | fast|<br />
 ————————————————<br />
* &#8211; There was a significant slowdown, but still the speed was high enough (about 3 &#8211; 5 seconds).<br />
Since &#8220;writethrough&#8221; option is the default, it becomes clear why the write speed to a virtual hard drive was high on Windows XP. (maybe it becomes clear)</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1153</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 23:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1148&quot;&gt;PlezzeR&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow that is some fantastic information!!!  I&#039;ll have to crib that and write it up!  but that is amazing I never even though to dig that far!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1148">PlezzeR</a>.</p>
<p>Wow that is some fantastic information!!!  I&#8217;ll have to crib that and write it up!  but that is amazing I never even though to dig that far!!!!!</p>
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		By: PlezzeR		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1148</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PlezzeR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes! :) Problem solved! The problem was related to the write caching on the hard drive. Caching in Qemu depends on the parameter &quot;-cache cacheparameter&quot; in &quot;-drive&quot;. This option is described in detail in the documentation. cacheparameter is &quot;none&quot;, &quot;writeback&quot;, &quot;unsafe&quot;, or &quot;writethrough&quot;. &quot;directsync&quot; is in the documentation, but I have not worked. With and without caching - different speed of the disc.
I tested the write speed to virtual hard disk.
Checked the speed install MS-DOS 6.22 in Qemu 0.14.1 and 0.15.0.
fast - copying files takes 1 - 2 seconds with a single floppy.
slow - copying files takes longer than 20 seconds (maybe even more than one minute) with a single floppy.
Columns - parameters of cache.
Rows - virtual hard disk formats.
Host OS - Windows 7 64-bit
Qemu 0.14.1 =&#062;
&#124;---------&#124;writethrough&#124;writeback&#124;unsafe&#124;none&#124;
-------------------------------------------------
&#124; raw        &#124;        slow       &#124;   fast        &#124;   fast   &#124;slow &#124;
&#124; qcow     &#124;        slow        &#124;   slow*    &#124;   fast   &#124; slow&#124;
&#124; qcow2   &#124;        slow        &#124;  fast        &#124;   fast   &#124; slow&#124;
&#124; vdi         &#124;        slow       &#124;   fast        &#124;   fast   &#124; slow&#124;
-------------------------------------------------
Qemu 0.15.0 =&#062;
&#124;---------&#124;writethrough&#124;writeback&#124;unsafe&#124;none&#124;
-------------------------------------------------
&#124; raw        &#124;        slow       &#124;   fast        &#124;   fast   &#124;fast &#124;
&#124; qcow     &#124;        slow        &#124;   slow*    &#124;   fast   &#124; slow&#124;
&#124; qcow2   &#124;        slow        &#124;  fast        &#124;   fast   &#124; fast&#124;
&#124; vdi         &#124;        slow       &#124;   fast        &#124;   fast   &#124; fast&#124;
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* - Why slow? I don&#039;t know. :(
Interesting test results.
&quot;writethrough&quot; option is the default. The result was a low speed of write to the virtual hard disk.
I replaced &quot;-hda disk1.qcow2&quot; to
&quot;-drive file=disk1.qcow2,if=ide,index=0,media=disk,cache=writeback&quot;
And it works fast.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! 🙂 Problem solved! The problem was related to the write caching on the hard drive. Caching in Qemu depends on the parameter &#8220;-cache cacheparameter&#8221; in &#8220;-drive&#8221;. This option is described in detail in the documentation. cacheparameter is &#8220;none&#8221;, &#8220;writeback&#8221;, &#8220;unsafe&#8221;, or &#8220;writethrough&#8221;. &#8220;directsync&#8221; is in the documentation, but I have not worked. With and without caching &#8211; different speed of the disc.<br />
I tested the write speed to virtual hard disk.<br />
Checked the speed install MS-DOS 6.22 in Qemu 0.14.1 and 0.15.0.<br />
fast &#8211; copying files takes 1 &#8211; 2 seconds with a single floppy.<br />
slow &#8211; copying files takes longer than 20 seconds (maybe even more than one minute) with a single floppy.<br />
Columns &#8211; parameters of cache.<br />
Rows &#8211; virtual hard disk formats.<br />
Host OS &#8211; Windows 7 64-bit<br />
Qemu 0.14.1 =&gt;<br />
|&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;|writethrough|writeback|unsafe|none|<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
| raw        |        slow       |   fast        |   fast   |slow |<br />
| qcow     |        slow        |   slow*    |   fast   | slow|<br />
| qcow2   |        slow        |  fast        |   fast   | slow|<br />
| vdi         |        slow       |   fast        |   fast   | slow|<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Qemu 0.15.0 =&gt;<br />
|&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;|writethrough|writeback|unsafe|none|<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
| raw        |        slow       |   fast        |   fast   |fast |<br />
| qcow     |        slow        |   slow*    |   fast   | slow|<br />
| qcow2   |        slow        |  fast        |   fast   | fast|<br />
| vdi         |        slow       |   fast        |   fast   | fast|<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
* &#8211; Why slow? I don&#8217;t know. 🙁<br />
Interesting test results.<br />
&#8220;writethrough&#8221; option is the default. The result was a low speed of write to the virtual hard disk.<br />
I replaced &#8220;-hda disk1.qcow2&#8221; to<br />
&#8220;-drive file=disk1.qcow2,if=ide,index=0,media=disk,cache=writeback&#8221;<br />
And it works fast.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1133&quot;&gt;PlezzeR&lt;/a&gt;.

I have no idea... here is a small test I just ran with Qemu 0.15.0 ...


# time dd if=/dev/zero of=bla bs=1000000 count=50
50+0 records in
50+0 records out
50000000 bytes transferred in 48.727 secs (1026116 bytes/sec)
    0m48.76s real     0m0.00s user     0m9.64s system]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1133">PlezzeR</a>.</p>
<p>I have no idea&#8230; here is a small test I just ran with Qemu 0.15.0 &#8230;</p>
<p># time dd if=/dev/zero of=bla bs=1000000 count=50<br />
50+0 records in<br />
50+0 records out<br />
50000000 bytes transferred in 48.727 secs (1026116 bytes/sec)<br />
    0m48.76s real     0m0.00s user     0m9.64s system</p>
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		By: PlezzeR		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1133</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PlezzeR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1127&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

On raw format writing speed - few KiloBytes per seconds. 4-10 Kb/sec :(
On XP works fine. Why?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1127">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>On raw format writing speed &#8211; few KiloBytes per seconds. 4-10 Kb/sec 🙁<br />
On XP works fine. Why?</p>
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		By: PlezzeR		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1132</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PlezzeR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1127&quot;&gt;neozeed&lt;/a&gt;.

memory 4 GB
I run Qemu with
qemu.exe -M pc -L pc-bios -m 16 -boot menu=on -hda disk1.disk -fda DOS1.IMG]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1127">neozeed</a>.</p>
<p>memory 4 GB<br />
I run Qemu with<br />
qemu.exe -M pc -L pc-bios -m 16 -boot menu=on -hda disk1.disk -fda DOS1.IMG</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1127</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1126&quot;&gt;PlezzeR&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve never benchmarked the speed of the disks... I know that expanding/growing a qcow/qcow2/vmdk/vpc image can be quite painful, however if RAW is slow as well... That&#039;d be quite bad.

How much memory do you have?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1126">PlezzeR</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never benchmarked the speed of the disks&#8230; I know that expanding/growing a qcow/qcow2/vmdk/vpc image can be quite painful, however if RAW is slow as well&#8230; That&#8217;d be quite bad.</p>
<p>How much memory do you have?</p>
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		By: PlezzeR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PlezzeR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 13:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Qemu operates at low speed with a virtual hard disk. I tried to format raw, qcow, vdi. On Windows XP 32-bit everything is fine. But for Windows 7 64-bit is such a problem. MS-DOS 6.22 is installed in Qemu on Windows 7, a few minutes, but on XP for a few seconds. Tried Qemu 0.14.0, 0.14.1, 0.15.0. Why such a low speed? :( In Safe Mode, Windows 7 is still a problem, too. How to solve this problem on Windows 7? Can you help? Thanks in advance.
Sorry for my English.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qemu operates at low speed with a virtual hard disk. I tried to format raw, qcow, vdi. On Windows XP 32-bit everything is fine. But for Windows 7 64-bit is such a problem. MS-DOS 6.22 is installed in Qemu on Windows 7, a few minutes, but on XP for a few seconds. Tried Qemu 0.14.0, 0.14.1, 0.15.0. Why such a low speed? 🙁 In Safe Mode, Windows 7 is still a problem, too. How to solve this problem on Windows 7? Can you help? Thanks in advance.<br />
Sorry for my English.</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/05/13/qemu-0-14-1-released/comment-page-1/#comment-485</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 17:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was a lot easier to setup than I had anticipated... Then again the last time I looked at doing this it was 2007... I&#039;m sure things have gotten a lot better since then!

And thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a lot easier to setup than I had anticipated&#8230; Then again the last time I looked at doing this it was 2007&#8230; I&#8217;m sure things have gotten a lot better since then!</p>
<p>And thanks!</p>
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