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		By: Michal N.		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/comment-page-1/#comment-355518</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michal N.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 13:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/comment-page-1/#comment-223955&quot;&gt;Michal N.&lt;/a&gt;.

It has been almost 5 years since I saw this website. In the recent days, I have managed to run DESQview/X in Virtualbox. What you actually need for networking is lsl.exe (Novell&#039;s Link Support Layer), an ODI driver for your network card (in my case I used the PCNET-Fast III), netware&#039;s TCP16, a copy of DESQview (obviously) and a correctly configured net.cfg file.

I got the network driver here: https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/virtualbox/?page_id=321
you need to grab the ODI driver, which has a (almost) preconfigured net.cfg and also contains lsl.exe.

TCP16 can be obtained here:
https://ftp.zx.net.nz/pub/archive/novell/lwp/doswin5/
I went with the TCP1607.EXE one, that has several bugfixes.

Now for the setup. Assuming you have DOS and DESQview installed already, you need to add a static IP, netmask and gateway by adding lines similar to these three under Bind PCNTNW:

IP_Address 172.16.1.2
IP_Netmask 255.255.255.0
IP_Router 172.16.1.1

You also need to have mempool 8192 and buffers 6, 1600 in the Link Support section.

Next, before launching DESQview/X you need to load the three EXE files in this order: LSL, PCNTNW, TCPIP (extracted from TCP16/TCP1607).

The final step is to select Novell LAN WorkPlace TCP/IP in DESQview/X&#039;s network setup and enable network virtualization.

Now, DESQview/X also has an rexec server, which I have also been able to use. GNU inetutils still contains source for rexec, but most distributions disable it for whatever reason, so I had to build it myself. Also, you have to have a two-way path between your UNIX/Linux PC and your DESQview/X VM, as well as enable TCP listening on your X server and disable authentication on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/comment-page-1/#comment-223955">Michal N.</a>.</p>
<p>It has been almost 5 years since I saw this website. In the recent days, I have managed to run DESQview/X in Virtualbox. What you actually need for networking is lsl.exe (Novell&#8217;s Link Support Layer), an ODI driver for your network card (in my case I used the PCNET-Fast III), netware&#8217;s TCP16, a copy of DESQview (obviously) and a correctly configured net.cfg file.</p>
<p>I got the network driver here: <a href="https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/virtualbox/?page_id=321" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/virtualbox/?page_id=321</a><br />
you need to grab the ODI driver, which has a (almost) preconfigured net.cfg and also contains lsl.exe.</p>
<p>TCP16 can be obtained here:<br />
<a href="https://ftp.zx.net.nz/pub/archive/novell/lwp/doswin5/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ftp.zx.net.nz/pub/archive/novell/lwp/doswin5/</a><br />
I went with the TCP1607.EXE one, that has several bugfixes.</p>
<p>Now for the setup. Assuming you have DOS and DESQview installed already, you need to add a static IP, netmask and gateway by adding lines similar to these three under Bind PCNTNW:</p>
<p>IP_Address 172.16.1.2<br />
IP_Netmask 255.255.255.0<br />
IP_Router 172.16.1.1</p>
<p>You also need to have mempool 8192 and buffers 6, 1600 in the Link Support section.</p>
<p>Next, before launching DESQview/X you need to load the three EXE files in this order: LSL, PCNTNW, TCPIP (extracted from TCP16/TCP1607).</p>
<p>The final step is to select Novell LAN WorkPlace TCP/IP in DESQview/X&#8217;s network setup and enable network virtualization.</p>
<p>Now, DESQview/X also has an rexec server, which I have also been able to use. GNU inetutils still contains source for rexec, but most distributions disable it for whatever reason, so I had to build it myself. Also, you have to have a two-way path between your UNIX/Linux PC and your DESQview/X VM, as well as enable TCP listening on your X server and disable authentication on it.</p>
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		By: Sti		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/comment-page-1/#comment-328779</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 22:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: ForOldHack		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/comment-page-1/#comment-291733</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ForOldHack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 13:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/comment-page-1/#comment-255677&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

Just wanted to update the link:
ftp://ftp.oldskool.org/pub/misc/DESQ/
No longer works, he moved the files:
ftp://ftp.oldskool.org/pub/misc/softeware/DESQ/
Which has both tcp16.exe and tcp1607.exe]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/comment-page-1/#comment-255677">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>Just wanted to update the link:<br />
<a href="ftp://ftp.oldskool.org/pub/misc/DESQ/" rel="ugc">ftp://ftp.oldskool.org/pub/misc/DESQ/</a><br />
No longer works, he moved the files:<br />
<a href="ftp://ftp.oldskool.org/pub/misc/softeware/DESQ/" rel="ugc">ftp://ftp.oldskool.org/pub/misc/softeware/DESQ/</a><br />
Which has both tcp16.exe and tcp1607.exe</p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are multiple mirrors of that chsoft.com page out there, e.g. ftp://mindcandydvd.com/pub/misc/Software/DESQ/dv.html  If that site disappears, I assume the file you&#039;re after is either tcp16.exe or tcp1607.exe, and the latter is a reasonably unique filename to search the web for.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are multiple mirrors of that chsoft.com page out there, e.g. <a href="ftp://mindcandydvd.com/pub/misc/Software/DESQ/dv.html" rel="ugc">ftp://mindcandydvd.com/pub/misc/Software/DESQ/dv.html</a>  If that site disappears, I assume the file you&#8217;re after is either tcp16.exe or tcp1607.exe, and the latter is a reasonably unique filename to search the web for.</p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/comment-page-1/#comment-224860</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2019 09:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/comment-page-1/#comment-224772&quot;&gt;DOS&lt;/a&gt;.

@Michal: Sorry, thought you were someone else, so I haven&#039;t emailed you.

@neozeed, when you get time, if you can&#039;t find the files but are happy to mirror them, let me know!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/comment-page-1/#comment-224772">DOS</a>.</p>
<p>@Michal: Sorry, thought you were someone else, so I haven&#8217;t emailed you.</p>
<p>@neozeed, when you get time, if you can&#8217;t find the files but are happy to mirror them, let me know!</p>
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		By: DOS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Michal: I might have it, I&#039;ve emailed you.

@neozeed: Good luck with the relocation and preserving all those old bits!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michal: I might have it, I&#8217;ve emailed you.</p>
<p>@neozeed: Good luck with the relocation and preserving all those old bits!</p>
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		By: neozeed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neozeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought I did, I need to dig more.

I think I was using a G5 quad proc back then to be obtuse..  In that case I had to abandon it all when I had to leave America. 

And I&#039;m going through something similar again having to quickly relocate to Japan before the fall of yet another iron curtain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I did, I need to dig more.</p>
<p>I think I was using a G5 quad proc back then to be obtuse..  In that case I had to abandon it all when I had to leave America. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m going through something similar again having to quickly relocate to Japan before the fall of yet another iron curtain.</p>
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		By: Michal N.		</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/comment-page-1/#comment-223955</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michal N.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2019 07:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you still have the network driver? the page you mentioned in the second paragraph is now defunct and I would really like to try it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you still have the network driver? the page you mentioned in the second paragraph is now defunct and I would really like to try it.</p>
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		By: Nick B.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks neozeed for redirecting me to this post.

I used to be a user of DesQview in the 386 and 486 days and DesQview/X featured in the DesQview User magazine a few times. It was totally overkill for anything I needed in the day job though so never got purchased.

I eventually came across 2.0 and 2.1 in a.b.w and I think those copies got archived on the chsoft website. I did have it running at one point on a Pentium mb with a Western Digital Paradise VGA card.

I did scan the magazine articles which are still available on chsoft.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks neozeed for redirecting me to this post.</p>
<p>I used to be a user of DesQview in the 386 and 486 days and DesQview/X featured in the DesQview User magazine a few times. It was totally overkill for anything I needed in the day job though so never got purchased.</p>
<p>I eventually came across 2.0 and 2.1 in a.b.w and I think those copies got archived on the chsoft website. I did have it running at one point on a Pentium mb with a Western Digital Paradise VGA card.</p>
<p>I did scan the magazine articles which are still available on chsoft.</p>
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